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Re: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
Reply #11 - 08/31/04 at 12:48:33
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I think Qe2 is best answered by 2...c5 although e5 and Nf6!? I believe both deserve attention.
As a French player I would be more worried about 1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Qe2 as I think this cuts out some of Blacks options.
  
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Re: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
Reply #10 - 06/06/04 at 04:37:22
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Against 2.Qe2, 2...c5 transposing into a closed Sicilian type of position must be right.

[Event "Russian Cup"]
[Site ""]
[Date "1997"]
[Round ""]
[White "Morozevich"]
[Black "Dolmatov"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. e4 e6 2. Qe2 c5 3. g3 Nc6 4. c3 g6 5. Bg2 Bg7 6. f4 Nge7 7. Nf3 d6 8.
O-O O-O 9. d3 b5 10. Be3 b4 11. Rc1 bxc3 12. bxc3 Ba6 13. Nbd2 Rb8 14. Bf1
Qd7 15. Nb3 e5 16. f5 gxf5 17. Bh3 Qe8 18. exf5 e4 19. Ng5 Nd5 20. Nxe4
Qxe4 21. dxe4 Bxe2 22. exd5 Ne5 23. Bg2 Rfe8 24. Bf4 Rb6 25. Bg5 h6 26. Bh4
Nd7 27. h3 h5 28. Bf1 Bxf1 29. Kxf1 Re5 30. Bd8 Rxf5+ 31. Kg2 Rb7 32. Rc2
Nf6 33. Na5 Nxd5
and black soon won.

  

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Re: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
Reply #9 - 06/04/04 at 18:01:20
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You ask what the best answer to 2.Qe2...is ???

I am fascinated by a very outstanding game:

Klein - Juegel, Eifel Open 2004, 0-1

1. e4 e6
2.Qe2 b6!?
3.Nf3 Bb7
4.g3 c5
5.Bg2 Nc6
6.0-0 g5!?

7.c3 g4
8.Ne1 h5
9.Nc2 Ne5!

10.d4 Nf3!
11.Bf3 gf:
12.Qf3...

Black came up with f5 & Nf6 and won in impressive style.

  

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Re: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
Reply #8 - 03/09/04 at 04:12:53
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Don't forget the surprising 2...Nf6 ! Quite successful for me !  8)
  
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Re: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
Reply #7 - 02/25/04 at 11:27:13
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Hey ChessMunsta,

I think i found a good line for black:

1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 Be7 3.Nf3 d5 4.g3 Nf6 5.d3 b5! (idea 6.Bg2 dxe4 7.dxe4 b4 8.Nbd2 La6 9.Nc4 Nc6) 6.e5 Nfd7
7.Bg2 c5 8.0-0 Nc6 9.h4 a5 10.Bf4 (10.c3!?) b4 =

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Re: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
Reply #6 - 02/25/04 at 09:18:45
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Quite impressive! Are there only won games in your database? I don't think so. In additition, have a look at the ratings for the players in the last three games:

Robert Rabiega 2527
Peter Enders 2478
Volker Seifert 2278
Christian Lassan 1957

In this case, the results show that Rabiega is the better player and obviously experienced in antifrench. Plus he had white. So, these three games are no real prove that this variation is as good as the games promise. Nevertheless it is impressive. Unfortunately i have not the strength of a rabiega, but i will have a look.

  
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Re: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
Reply #5 - 02/25/04 at 07:40:27
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After 1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 e5 I prefer 3.f4.The queen is misplaced on Qe2,but she has a good place on f2!

[Event "Soest op"]
[Site "Soest"]
[Date "1996.??.??"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Rytshagov,Mikhail"]
[Black "Van Brussel,A"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C00"]
1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 e5 3.f4 d6 4.Qf2 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd7 7.Nf3 Be7 8.d3 exf4 9.Bxf4 a6 10.Ba4 b5 11.Bb3 Na5 12.0-0 Nxb3 13.axb3 Be6 14.Nd4 Bd7 15.Bg5 c5 16.Nf5 Bxf5 17.Qxf5 0-0 18.Kh1 Nd7 19.Bxe7 Qxe7 20.Nd5 Qd8 21.b4 Nb6 22.bxc5 dxc5 23.Nf4 c4 24.Rf3 Qc8 25.Qh5 Qc6 26.Raf1 cxd3 27.cxd3 Rac8 28.Rh3 h6 29.Rg3 Nd7 30.Qg4 Qf6 31.Qxd7  1-0

[Event "El Sauzal op"]
[Site "El Sauzal"]
[Date "2003.11.??"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Glavina Rossi,Pablo"]
[Black "De la Cruz Sanchez,C Gustavo"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C00"]
1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 e5 3.f4 d6 4.Qf2 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd7 7.d3 a6 8.Ba4 b5 9.Bb3 Na5 10.Nf3 Nxb3 11.axb3 exf4 12.Bxf4 Be7 13.0-0 0-0 14.Kh1 Nh5 15.Be3 f5 16.e5 f4
17.Bd2 Bc6 18.Nd4 Bb7 19.Ne6 Qd7 20.Nxf8 Rxf8 21.exd6 Bh4 22.Qxh4  1-0

OK,3...d6 isn´t best! I think 3...exf4 is better.

1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 e5 3.f4 exf4 4.Nf3 g5 (4...d5!? 5.exd5+ Be7 6.d4 Nf6 7.Qb5+ Nbd7 8.Bxf4 0-0 9.Bd3 a6 10.Qb3 b5 11.0-0 Bb7 12.c4 Nb6 13.cxb5 axb5 14.Nc3 b4 15.Ne2 Nbxd5 16.Bd2 c5 17.Rac1 Qb6 18.Kh1 Rfd8 19.Ng3 cxd4 20.Nf5 Bc5 21.Ne5 Rac8 22.Bc4 Bf8 23.Qg3 g6 24.Nh6+ Kg7 25.Nhxf7 Ne3 26.Nxd8 Rxd8 27.Bxe3 dxe3 28.Rfe1 Ba6 29.Bxa6 Qxa6 1-0 Gallagher-Gerber)

5.h4 g4 6.Ne5 and I enjoy white position!

[Event "Barbera del Valles op 26th"]
[Site "Barbera del Valles"]
[Date "2003.07.06"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Garrido Fernandez,Daniel"]
[Black "Carbonell Bofill,Carlos"]
[Result "1/2"]
[Eco "C00"]
1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 e5 3.f4 exf4 4.Nf3 g5 5.h4 g4 6.Ne5 h5 7.d4 Qf6 8.Nc3 Ne7 9.Qf2 Bh6 10.Bc4 g3 11.Qf3 d6 12.Nxf7 Bg4 13.e5 Bxf3 14.exf6 Bxg2 15.Nxh8 Bxh1 16.fxe7 Nc6 17.Bb5 Bg7 18.Ng6 f3 19.Be3 Kf7 20.Bxc6 bxc6 21.Nf4 Bh6 22.Kd2 Rg8 23.Rxh1 Bxf4 24.Rf1 f2
25.Ne2 Bxe3+ 26.Kxe3 Kxe7 27.Rd1 Rg4 28.Kf3 Re4 29.Nxg3 Re1 30.Rd3 f1=Q+ 31.Nxf1 Rxf1+ 32.Kg3 Rg1+
33.Kf3 Ke6 34.Ra3 Rg4 35.Rxa7 Kd7 36.c3 Rxh4 37.Rb7 c5 1/2 (11.Qf3?!)

After 1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 Be7 3.Nf3 is best.

1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 Be7 3.Nf3 d5 4.d3 (compare with 1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Qe2 Be7) Nf6 5.g3 (Bg2,e5,h4) etc.

[Event "GER-ch"]
[Site "Heringsdorf"]
[Date "2000.11.17"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Rabiega,Robert"]
[Black "Enders,Peter"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C00"]
1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Qe2 Nf6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.g3 b5 6.e5 Nfd7 7.Bg2 c5 8.h4 Nc6 9.0-0 0-0 10.Bf4 a5 11.Nbd2 b4 12.h5 Kh8 13.Nh2 Nd4 14.Qd1 Ba6 15.Ndf3 Nxf3+ 16.Nxf3 c4
17.dxc4 Bxc4 18.Re1 Rc8 19.Qd2 Ba6 20.h6 g6 21.Bg5 Bxg5 22.Nxg5 Qc7 23.a3 Qxc2 24.Qxc2 Rxc2 25.axb4 Rxb2 26.Rxa5 Nb8 27.Rea1 Bd3 28.Ra7 Kg8 29.Bh3 Nc6 30.Rxf7  1-0

[Event "Dresden ZMD op"]
[Site "Dresden"]
[Date "2002.07.18"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Rabiega,Robert"]
[Black "Seifert,Volker"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C00"]
1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Qe2 Nf6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.g3 b5 6.Bg2 dxe4 7.dxe4 b4 8.Nbd2 Ba6 9.Nc4 0-0 10.0-0 Nc6 11.e5 Nd5 12.Qe4 Qc8 13.Re1 Qb7 14.h4 Qb5 15.Bf1 Qc5 16.Bd3 g6 17.Bh6 Rfd8 18.h5 Na5 19.Qg4 Bxc4 20.hxg6 fxg6 21.Bxg6 Bf8 22.Bxh7+ Kxh7 23.Bxf8 Qxf8 24.Ng5+ Kh6 25.Kg2  1-0

[Event "Berlin Unicorn op"]
[Site "Berlin"]
[Date "2003.05.28"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Rabiega,Robert"]
[Black "Lassan,Christian"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C00"]
1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Qe2 Nf6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.g3 b5 6.e5 Nfd7 7.Bg2 Bb7 8.h4 c5 9.0-0 Nc6 10.c3 b4 11.Re1 Qc7 12.Bf4 Nb6 13.Nbd2 bxc3 14.bxc3 Na4 15.Rec1 Rb8 16.c4 Na5
17.cxd5 Bxd5 18.Ne4 Rb2 19.Qe3 0-0 20.Nf6+ Kh8 21.Bh6 gxf6 22.exf6 Bxf6 23.Bxf8 Bxf3 24.Qxf3 Bd4
25.Bh6 Bxf2+ 26.Kh2 Bd4 27.Rab1 Nb6 28.Rxb2 Bxb2 29.Re1  1-0

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Re: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
Reply #4 - 02/25/04 at 05:17:47
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If somebody play anti-french with me, i play anti-anti-french

1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 Be7

The basic idea of Qe2 is to prevent d5, the basic idea of Be7 is to enable d5 again, so you can say it is the right "psychological" way  Wink (No, i did not read to much lasker-books)


1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 Be7 3.b3 d5 4.Bb2 Bf6 5.Bxf6 Nxf6

is just one variation with quite interesting continueations. I'm interested in how you would vary your "system" in the following lines

1. e4 e6 2. Qe2 Be7 3. g3 d5
1. e4 e6 2. Qe2 Be7 3. f4 d5

Obviously it not that easy for white to just play a simple fianchetto line here, besides i like lines with c3 and Na3 (see anti silician forum "1.e4 c5 2.e5")

Finally i agree that the Qe2 blocks the Bf1, to think that further, he
[b]has[b] to go to g2, and the lines above don't let this plan look easy.

I'm looking forward to your answers!
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Re: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
Reply #3 - 02/25/04 at 04:57:47
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I am not sure that 1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 e5 3.f4 is an 'improved' King's Gambit.  The queen blocks the Bf1's development, no longer supports d2-d4, and is liable to get hit by ...Nb8-c6-d4.
  

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Re: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
Reply #2 - 02/24/04 at 19:52:27
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I would imagine that most people who play 2.Qe2 would meet 2...e5 with 3.f4 with an improved King's Gambit.  I'm sure 2...c5 is sufficient for equality, but its a dynamic equality at least where both sides can play for a win.
  
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Re: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
Reply #1 - 02/24/04 at 19:40:10
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How about 2 ... e5 (2 ... c5 as you mentioned is also good).  After 2... e5, play tranposes to a double king's pawn opening where it looks like White's queen is misplaced. I think after 2 ... e5 or 2 ... c5, Black gets easy equality.
  
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C00: The "Anti-French" 2.Qe2
02/24/04 at 12:14:23
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What is the best reply to the "Anti-french" move 2.Qe2? Many grandmasters plays 2...c5 to transpose to a kind of closed sicilian,but I enjoy the white position after the moves g3,f4,Bg2,Nf3,c3,Na3!

Some typical games:



[Event "RUS-ch 56th"]
[Site "Krasnoyarsk"]
[Date "2003.09.03"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Ulibin,Mikhail"]
[Black "Ivanov,Sergey"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C00"]
1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 c5 3.g3 Nc6 4.Bg2 g6 5.c3 Bg7 6.f4 Nge7 7.Nf3 d6 8.0-0 0-0 9.Kh1 Rb8 10.Na3 Qd7 11.Nc2 b5 12.d4 cxd4 13.cxd4 b4 14.Rd1 Rb6 15.d5 Ba6 16.Qe1 exd5 17.exd5 Na5 18.Nxb4 Bc4 19.Be3 Rb5 20.a4 Rbb8 21.Bd4 Bb3 22.Bxg7 Kxg7 23.Rd3 Rfe8 24.Na6 Nxd5
25.Qxa5 Rb6 26.Nd2 Ne3 27.Qc3+  1-0

[Event "RUS-Cup01 Chigorin mem"]
[Site "St Petersburg"]
[Date "1997.11.01"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Fedorov,Alexei"]
[Black "Yandemirov,Valeri"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C00"]
1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 c5 3.g3 Nc6 4.c3 g6 5.Bg2 Bg7 6.f4 Nge7 7.Nf3 0-0 8.0-0 d6 9.Na3 Rb8 10.Kh1 a6 11.Nc2 b5 12.d4 b4 13.dxc5 bxc3 14.b3 dxc5 15.Be3 Nd4 16.Nfxd4 cxd4 17.Rad1 e5 18.fxe5 Nc6 19.Nxd4 Nxe5 20.Nc6 Nxc6 21.Rxd8 Rxd8 22.Rc1 Nb4 23.Bg5 Re8 24.Bf4 Rb5
25.a4 Rd5 26.e5 g5 27.Qc4 gxf4 28.Bxd5 Nxd5 29.Qxd5 Be6 30.Qd4 Bxb3 31.gxf4 c2 32.Kg1 Rc8
33.Kf2 Be6 34.Qd3 Rc4 35.Qd8+  1-0

[Event "EU-chT (Women)"]
[Site "Leon"]
[Date "2001.11.06"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Arakhamia Grant,Ketevan"]
[Black "Hagarova,Zuzana"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C00"]
1.e4 e6 2.Qe2 c5 3.g3 Nc6 4.c3 Nge7 5.Bg2 g6 6.f4 Bg7 7.Nf3 0-0 8.0-0 d6 9.Na3 Rb8 10.Kh1 a6 11.Rd1 b5 12.d4 b4 13.dxc5 bxc3 14.Nc4 d5 15.Nb6 Qc7 16.bxc3 dxe4 17.Qxe4 Bxc3 18.Rb1 Nd5 19.Be3 Bg7 20.Nxd5 exd5 21.Qxd5 Be6 22.Qd2 Rfd8 23.Qe2 Rxd1+ 24.Rxd1 Qa5 25.Ng5 Rb2 26.Qf3 Qa4 27.Nxe6 fxe6 28.Rc1 Ne7 29.c6 Rc2 30.Qd1 Rxc1 31.Qxc1 Bd4 32.Bxd4 Qxd4
33.c7 Qd7 34.Bb7 Kf7 35.Kg2 Qd3 36.a3 a5 37.c8=Q Nxc8 38.Bxc8 Qd5+ 39.Kf2 Qa2+ 40.Kg1 Qb3
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