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Re: Grunfeld D89 - game - Hansen - McShane, Malmo
Reply #6 - 03/25/05 at 01:24:20
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I have a question on this line:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. e4 Nxc3 6. bxc3 Bg7 7. Bc4 c5 8.
Ne2 O-O 9. O-O Nc6 10. Be3 Bg4 11. f3 cxd4 12. cxd4 Na5 13. Bd3 Be6 14. d5 Bxa1
15. Qxa1 f6 16. Bh6 Re8 17. Kh1 Bd7 18. e5 e6

I know 17...Bd7 is considered dubious in this line.  In NIC yearbook 68, the only moves given are 18.e5 and then Rc8 for black.  I have been unable to find any games with 18...e6 for black.  Is this covered in the Sakaev book?  Or does anyone know if it has been played before and where I might find a game with it?

I am playing a correspondence game in this line.  The webmaster has given me permission to pursue further research in this manner as long as no advice is given by anyone responding to this.   I have my own thoughts on the move and have been studying the position but correspondence chess being what it is, I wouldn't mind seeing a master game or two with this (if it has been played that is).  Thanks.
  

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Re: Grunfeld D89 - game - Hansen - McShane, Malmo
Reply #5 - 09/22/04 at 13:43:21
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I have the same book that they mentioned earlier and you have to get this book! I have computerchecked more than 20 different subvariations and they have never been wrong!

In the line you mention, they give 13.dxc5 as better than 13.d5 but I haven't checked that variation yet.

I have a question though. What are you supposed to play against 10... e6    ?   In Nigel Davies' book he has a game in which he played this move and the Sakaevs book doesn't mention it...
  
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Re: Grunfeld D89 - game - Hansen - McShane, Malmo
Reply #4 - 09/09/04 at 14:08:51
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This line is my favourite weapon against Grunfeld, but every strong player avoids it; they play e.g. 10. ...Qc7
What`s the "best" reply against this line?!
11.Rc1 Rd8 12.Bf4!? Qd7 13.d5 unclear (for me;) )
  

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Re: Grunfeld D89 - game - Hansen - McShane, Malmo
Reply #3 - 08/25/04 at 11:13:31
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http://stores.ebay.com/BgChess_W0QQsspagenameZl2QQtZkm is a great place to get these books that you can't get on Amazon or elsewhere. They ship from Bulgaria, but it's cheap and fast. Notice their perfect feedback.
  
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Reply #2 - 08/25/04 at 10:45:32
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I keep reading about Sakaev's book on Gruenfeld but where can one get it in the U.S.?
      Thanks, CMA
  
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Re: Grunfeld D89 - game - Hansen - McShane, Malmo
Reply #1 - 04/28/04 at 15:52:20
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Well, the magnificent book by Sakaev on the Grunfeld (are you guys analysing things on move 3x? ) agrees with your evaluation. For the record, you are talking about...



Deep analysis of this position (After 20...Ba4) all the way to...




as far as I can see, if anybody has analysis here, is unlikely to publish unless played in a game...
  

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Grunfeld D89 - game - Hansen - McShane, Malmo 2003
03/10/04 at 18:02:52
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[Event "Malmo"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2003.??.??"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Hansen, Curt"]
[Black "McShane, Luke"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D89"]
[PlyCount "85"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. e4 Nxc3 6. bxc3 Bg7 7. Bc4 c5 8.
Ne2 O-O 9. O-O Nc6 10. Be3 Bg4 11. f3 cxd4 12. cxd4 Na5 13. Bd3 Be6 14. d5 Bxa1
15. Qxa1 f6 16. Bh6 Re8 17. Kh1 Rc8 18. Nf4 Bd7 19. e5 Nc4 20. e6 Ba4 21. Nxg6
hxg6 22. Bxg6 Ne5 23. Be4 Bc2 24. Bxc2 Rxc2 25. Qd1 Kh7 26. f4 Kxh6 27. fxe5
Rc4 28. Qd3 b5 29. exf6 exf6 30. d6 Kg7 31. Qg3+ Kh7 32. Qh3+ Kg7 33. Qg3+ Kh7
34. Qf3 Kg6 35. Qd5 Rh8 36. h3 a6 37. Qd3+ Kg7 38. Qg3+ Kh7 39. Rf5 Qe8 40.
Rxf6 Rg8 41. Qd3+ Kg7 42. Qf5 Rc5 43. Rf7+ 1-0


Alon Greenfeld suggested 27...Qc7!= in New in Chess YearBook 68 and I think it's ok.

He also considered the position of the game after move 30.d6 + - because he suggested after 30...Kg7 (only move) 31.Qd5! as winning. I would like to know what happen after 31...Rg4!?

My idea is to bring the rook to g5 in order to defend the position and also threat the "e6" pawn with Re5. It's not clear how the attack will continue because his assessment is without moves. I know the queen is in a situation of passivity but both rooks may be active in order to defend the black king!

If there is a draw in 31.Qd5 Rg4!? so 31.Qg3+ is better as it was played in the game Hansen - McShane, Malmo 2003.

Any suggestion how to attack?

Thanks
Luiz Roberto Da Costa Junior
  
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