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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #91 - 03/10/12 at 08:23:44
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Markovich wrote on 02/24/12 at 19:19:44:
Mihalevski's work in combination with Aagaard and Ntirlis's on the Tarrasch would make a very fine classical repertoire. Open Spanish+Tarrasch was my repertoire for a long time, in fact.

You may be interested to hear that this repertoire is exactly where I'm going. The Tarrasch book is amazing.

For me black's main challenge with the Open remains what to do against 9.Nbd2. The second challenge is what to do against a weaker player going 6.Re1.
  
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Reply #90 - 02/25/12 at 10:17:48
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Are you sure? I can't find anything about this book on their website...


Look on the blog, summer/autumn on the second board.  Wink
  

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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #89 - 02/24/12 at 19:19:44
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Mihalevski's work in combination with Aagaard and Ntirlis's on the Tarrasch would make a very fine classical repertoire. Open Spanish+Tarrasch was my repertoire for a long time, in fact.
  

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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #88 - 02/24/12 at 15:27:22
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Mortal Games wrote on 01/13/12 at 16:57:40:
Grandmaster Repertoire X – The Open Spanish by Viktor Mikhalevski is announced for summer/autumn by Quality Chess.


Are you sure? I can't find anything about this book on their website...
  

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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #87 - 02/23/12 at 13:00:57
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Ametanoitos wrote on 04/06/11 at 12:14:27:
He recommends 2 lines against Nbd2. He plays Nc5 and g6 in his first recommendation. He ommits the quick Nd4 line (a known idea where White sacs the e5 pawn) but even worse his main line there stops in a winning position for White! In his second suggestion (a modern Nxb3 line) He says nothing about the critical plan with a quick Re1 for White when he stops the main idea ...f6 of Black. Then Black should play "a la Short" with ...a5 but this plan is not even mentioned by Martin! Black is again slightly worse there, but following Martin's recommendations you are not going to get just a "+/=" but probably a "+/-".

Also his recommendation against Keres' quick Qe2 line looks supsect to me. OK, Black may have adequate counterplay somehow but again Martin fails to spot the critical continuations!

This man has done some nice things in the past. So, i don't think that he is bad at what he is doing. I mean that he can do something good, but the last products by him are at least awfull! He claims that he doesn't do them for GMs to see but (as i am an experienced coach myself) the way he presents the material and his choices of the lines are even worse for a normal club player. I regret every cent i have spent on his recent DVDs.

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Can you give the exact lines?
  

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Reply #86 - 01/13/12 at 16:57:40
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Grandmaster Repertoire X – The Open Spanish by Viktor Mikhalevski is announced for summer/autumn by Quality Chess.
  

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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #85 - 10/04/11 at 11:54:03
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Another one that may be of interest and related to your previous analyses:

Here 13... Bb4?! is played (you give 13...Rc8).. Well, speaking of 13...Rc8 and prolonging with 14. Nc3 c5! (your mark) what about 15. Bxd5!?, i.e...

White have the bishops' pair and += is evident, imho..
  
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Reply #84 - 10/04/11 at 11:18:34
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And look how the big guys play this:  Wink
  
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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #83 - 10/04/11 at 11:01:52
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NeverGiveUp wrote on 10/04/11 at 10:46:48:
Thanks again Vass.

So 9.Nbd2 in the Open Ruy is +=?

Does the forum agree?

Must admit I've had problems deciding what to do against 9.Nbd2. For me it's definitely critical.

And then you're heading for 9...Nc5 10. c3 Bf5!? I suppose..  Smiley
I've found 5 corr.games after 10...Bf5. All ended 1-0. In 3 of all 5 white played 11.Bc2.. And one of this three enters into our previously discussed variation:

Edit: I suppose 21...Nc5? is an 'email error'.. Though even if 21...Nb6 was played white would have been in better position.  Wink
Edit: You mention 15...Be7!? in your analysis (after transposing) which is better than 15...Qd7 and next 16...Nd8?! (intending c7-c5-c4), of course..
  
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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #82 - 10/04/11 at 10:46:48
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Thanks again Vass.

So 9.Nbd2 in the Open Ruy is +=?

Does the forum agree?

Must admit I've had problems deciding what to do against 9.Nbd2. For me it's definitely critical.
  
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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #81 - 10/04/11 at 10:17:12
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NeverGiveUp wrote on 10/04/11 at 08:22:02:
Thanks again Vass.

I have played the Breyer a long time ago (as a youngster) and still play a Breyer-like setup against 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.d3 (5. ... d6 6.c3 g6 7.Nbd2 Bg7 8.0-0 0-0 9.Re1 b5 10.Bc2 Bb7 followed by Nc6-b8-d7).
It is interesting that you recommend it but would be quite a big and time-consuming change for me, and I would have to work out what to do after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 0-0 9.d4. Is there a good repertoire book available on the Breyer?

To stay with this thread: so you are convinced white is better after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Ne4: 6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 d5 8.de5: Be6 9.Nbd2?
Would black be able to (almost?) equalise with 9. ... Bc5?

If you mean the resulting endgame after 10. Nxe4... my answer is 'almost'. There are some interesting games here. To name a few: "Rybka" - "Ikarus X" (Internet 2008) where Rybka chose 13. Bf4 and didn't win. Then comes Z.Hracek 2595 - D.Mastrovasilis 2574 (Istanbul 2003) where white were on the right path with 13. Nxe4 Bb6 but not for long.. The truth for white to seek is somewhere here:
  
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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #80 - 10/04/11 at 08:22:02
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Thanks again Vass.

I have played the Breyer a long time ago (as a youngster) and still play a Breyer-like setup against 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.d3 (5. ... d6 6.c3 g6 7.Nbd2 Bg7 8.0-0 0-0 9.Re1 b5 10.Bc2 Bb7 followed by Nc6-b8-d7).
It is interesting that you recommend it but would be quite a big and time-consuming change for me, and I would have to work out what to do after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 0-0 9.d4. Is there a good repertoire book available on the Breyer?

To stay with this thread: so you are convinced white is better after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Ne4: 6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 d5 8.de5: Be6 9.Nbd2?
Would black be able to (almost?) equalise with 9. ... Bc5?
  
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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #79 - 10/04/11 at 07:41:54
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NeverGiveUp wrote on 10/03/11 at 08:47:16:
Are you a Lopez player yourself? If yes, what line(s) do you play?

A Ruy Lopez line that I always liked for black is Breyer. May I suggest you to try it if you like it. (I really don't like your tries in Riga and Bf5-variation in the Open Spanish.) Even Magnus Carlsen gave it a try. Look at some lines and tell me if you like what you see. And if you want we can renew another Breyer thread in this beloved forum, or even start a new one.  Wink
  
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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #78 - 10/03/11 at 12:20:09
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You're absolutely right again Vass and I'll follow your advice.

Thanks.
  
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Re: Open Ruy Lopez
Reply #77 - 10/03/11 at 11:48:45
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Yes, I play Ruy Lopez but with white..
And yes, it seems you Never Give Up trying to involve me in an analysis of a line that I see is completely busted..
And yes, it's busted! No way of salvation.. This 16.Rxe1 and 17.Kg1-plan is a significant example of how one has to prolong the line in a corr.game analysis if feeling 'there is something there'..  Wink
My advice for you is to leave such offbeat variations and stick to the main lines. There is some significant cover subtitle on the Avrukh's two volumes of "GM Repertoire 1.d4" which states: "Tired of bad positions? Try the main lines!" and below the trademark "Quality Chess".  Cool
  
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