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Re: 5 Nce2 in trouble?
Reply #5 - 10/30/05 at 10:15:34
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As noted earlier in this thread and elsewhere on the site 6.f4! is the move for white, avoiding the f6-line.
  

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Re: 5 Nce2 in trouble?
Reply #4 - 08/23/04 at 17:09:15
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An interesting option for Black in the Nce2 system is the line with an early ...Be7:

5.f4 c5 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Ne2 Be7!? (or 5.Nce2 c5 6.f4 Nc6 7.Nf3 Be7!?). A critical continuation is 8.c3 0-0 9.a3 a5 10.g3 cxd4 11.cxd4 f6 12.Bh3 fxe5 13.dxe5 Qb6 14.Bxe6+ Kh8 15.Bxd5 Ndxe5!? 16.fxe5 Nxe5 17.Nxe5 Qf2+ 18.Kd2, when Black's attack looks ominous, but is it really worth two pieces?? Undecided
  
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Re: 5 Nce2 in trouble?
Reply #3 - 06/06/04 at 09:12:40
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The only other move, I have written down is: 10.Qh5+ (instead of Bxb4) g6 (10...Ke7?! 11.Rd1) 11.Nxg6 Bxd2+ 12.Kxd2 Qxb2+ (12...Qxd4+ 13.Kc1) 13.Ke3 Qxa1 14.Nxh8+ Kd8 and I left the analysis here (as unclear) and I admit I don't like the beauty of that position (king's wandering, destroyed wings on each side,...)
  

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Re: 5 Nce2 in trouble?
Reply #2 - 06/06/04 at 04:39:16
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Thanks. Watson's new book is great and black may well be fine after 5 Nce2 c5 6 c3 cxd4 7 cxd4 f6! 8 Nf4! (probably best) 8...Bb4+ 9 Bd2 Qb6. Some players may not want to allow so many exchanges as black, but after 10 Bxb4 Qxb4+ 11 Qd2 Qxd2+ 12 Kxd2 Ke7 I believe, contrary to my initial thoughts, that black is fine as Gleizerov has shown.
  
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Re: 5 Nce2 in trouble?
Reply #1 - 05/21/04 at 07:57:38
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I have not (yet) read Waston's new book but McDonald has already published some analysis (Anand-Bareev,2000 ; Arakhamia-Gleizerov,Port Erin 2001).

I will just add some lines:

6.c3 (6.f4! a try to deviate from c3-cxd4-cxd4-f6 line ... Nc6 Hamdouchi-Gurevich,Wijk aan Zee 2004 and many other interesting games ; or 6...cxd4 7.Nxd4 Nc6 8.c3 Nc5!? ) f6 7.Nf4 Qe7 8.exf6 Nf3 += (Keres and Eco )

I recall previous line because it has some common idea with 6.c3 cxd4 7.cxd4 f6 8.Nf4! (8.f4 is not "prevented" but it's true Black has some nice variations ; 8.exf6 Nxf6 9.Nf3 where White will play Tarrasch variation (classical line with Nc3 or Ng3) without positional ideas like Bf4 since Bf1 is deprived from square d3 in the current position) Bb4+ 9.Bd2 Qe7!? 10.exf6 Nxf6 11.Qa4 Nc6 12.Bxb4 Qxb4+ 13.Qxb4 Nxb4 14.Bd3 oo 15.a3 Nh5 Vukovic-Piskov,Yougoslavie 1994 (Tiemann)
  

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C11: 5 Nce2 in trouble?
05/16/04 at 16:08:00
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Watson deals effectively with 5 Nce2!? in the Classical French in his excellent latest repertoire work. I've always enjoyed playing the line, but see that Anand and Shirov are hardly using it these days.
What do others and Neil think of Watson's attempts to assist Black's cause; not so much once white gets in 10 h4! in the key Anand-Shirov game (although then this ...b6 idea may well equalise), but quite early on like with 5 Nce2 c5 6 c3 cxd4 7 cxd4 f6, preventing f4?
Maybe Psakhis will also cover this if he has one more French tome to come?
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