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Re: RuyLopez Anti Marshal 8.h3
Reply #3 - 08/05/04 at 12:44:17
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I see no reason not to grab the pawn on e5 before playing Nc3, if there's a free pawn you might as well take it. 10.Nc3 Nxc3 11.dxc3 Bb7 black is probably equal. However, after 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5, 11...Nb6 is the correct move for black, though white scores well after it. Then 12.d3 c5 13.c3 (else ...c4 is a problem) Bb7 gives black some play, but white should be able to hang on, with an extra pawn to boot.

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Re: RuyLopez Anti Marshal 8.h3
Reply #2 - 08/05/04 at 05:43:17
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thanks Craig.

It's interesting that you said the c3 square is for the knight.

8. h3 d5
9. ed5 Nd5

After the immediate 10. Nc3 !?

what's the best continuation for both side ?

one of my option 10 .... Nxc3  11. dxc3

  
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Re: RuyLopez Anti Marshal 8.h3
Reply #1 - 08/05/04 at 05:01:41
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I think the whole point of 8.h3 is that black's counterplay is reduced. Because white doesn't waste a tempo on 8.c3, this square is available immediately for white's knight. Also, in the line you gave (which is the main line), black seems to have almost no compensation for the pawn after 12.Bxd5 cxd5 13.d4 - he is a pawn down with an isolated pawn, and nothing but the bishop pair to compensate. I could be wrong here, but these factors should be why this line scores miserably for black.

To conclude, 8.h3 is called an Anti-Marshall system for a reason... if it allowed the Marshall, I doubt too many GMs of the likes of Kasparov would waste their time playing it. It offers black a significantly worse version of the Marshall where white has gained time.

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RuyLopez Anti Marshal 8.h3
08/05/04 at 03:57:15
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After

1.e4 e5
2.Nf3 Nc6
3.Bb5 a6
4.Ba4 Nf6
5.0-0 B37
6.Re1 bb5
7.Bb3 0-0

Instead of previous 8.a4, the most popular "Anti Marshall" nowadays is 8.h3, then continue

with :
8.h3 Bb7
9.d3 and so on

My question is :

A.

Why 8.h3 is called antimarshal ? How if Black still continue with standard Marshall attack plan :
8. h3 d5
9. ed5 Nd5
10,Nxe5 Nxe5
11.Rxe5 c6

B.

Is : 12. Bxd5 cd5 13. d5 Bd5 14. Re1 Qh4 15. Qd3 !? is the best line here for white ?

C.

Or not to exchange in d5, but continue with 12. d4 Bd6 13. Re1 Qh4 14. Qd3 is better ?

D. the bottom line of my question is : Because of most the people continue 8.h3 with 8....Bb7, is Black continue with standard plan of marshall attack 8...d5 good or bad both for Black or White ?
  
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