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Re: 9.f3 e3 in the Classical English
Reply #6 - 11/30/04 at 09:07:10
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Perhaps - although having won with 9...e3 in game 2, he ducked the challenge to play it again in game 4, reverting to 9...exf3 - and duly lost!
  
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Re: 9.f3 e3 in the Classical English
Reply #5 - 11/30/04 at 09:01:33
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Should not 9...e3!? be called the Karpov Gambit then? After all, that game from 1987 is one of Karpov's most brilliant wins in his entire career.
  
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Reply #4 - 11/30/04 at 06:10:12
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Though not too well against Mr Kasparov, as I recall.
  
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Re: 9.f3 e3 in the Classical English
Reply #3 - 11/25/04 at 06:30:56
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Yes, I am also inclining to the early Nd5 lines - Lautier seems to do pretty well with them.
  
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Reply #2 - 11/23/04 at 17:52:45
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Indeed. In fact the recent published theory appears to take the opposite view, e.g. Hansen (1999) and Raetsky and Chetverik (2004). I haven't the latter to hand, but flicking through it in a public library in the City of London I seem to remember their citing Hansen's recommendation of 11...Na5 12.Qa3 c6 13.cd5 cd5 14.f4 Bg4 which is, indeed, what was played in the Schacher-Maki Uuro game given in this month's roundup. As far as I can see Black is coming up with most of the ideas in this line.

Hey ho, anyone for 5.Nd5? Or 6.Nd5, for that matter. It's got to be 4.g3 - 4.a3 is a disaster when I try it and I don't believe in 4.e3 for a minute.
  
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Reply #1 - 11/23/04 at 13:41:18
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There is of course Dolmatov's much-quoted offhand observation that Kasparov's 10 d3 d5 11 Qb3 refutes 9...e3 - "I was Kasparov's second during that match, and I can definitely assure you of this."

Not that anyone - as far as I know - has ever felt inclined to publish anything to try and prove this assertion.
  
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9.f3 e3 in the Classical English
11/23/04 at 11:14:35
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Tony's October update features a game in the line established in the Kasparov-Karpov match in 1987:

1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.g3 Bb4 5.Bg2 O-O 6.O-O e4 7.Ng5 Bc3 8.bc3 Re8 9.f3 e3!?

While I'd like to play the English, this main line seems to me to be so comfortable for Black, in all the recent theoretical sources I have consulted, that I'm really not sure it's worth it.

Is it really as comfortable for Black as it seems, and if so, are there any genuinely promising alternatives for White in the 4.g3 Bb4 line?
  
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