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C13: 3. Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 e5 Nfd7 Be3!? (Read 2219 times)

Mike Thomas Full Member Offline So many openings, so little time! Posts: 116 Location: Louisville Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 e5 Nfd7 B Reply #4 - 01/18/05 at 02:13:39	Post Tools	Print Post
	Since Bg5-e3 is rather slow, couldn't Black play something like 6...0-0 7.f4 b6 with the idea of Ba6 and only later c5? Getting rid of White's KB should help to equalize rather easily.


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HgMan God Member Offline Demand me nothing: What you know, you know Posts: 2326 Location: Up on Cripple Creek Joined: 11/09/04 Gender:	Re: 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 e5 Nfd7 B Reply #3 - 01/17/05 at 22:28:03	Post Tools	Print Post
	I was looking for ways to avoid putting the bishop on c5, but couldn't really do it. There's no clear way to punish White by swinging the bishop out to the kingside without giving the tempo back (letting White get in f4 or g3 with tempo).

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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10518 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 e5 Nfd7 B Reply #2 - 01/17/05 at 20:25:54	Post Tools	Print Post
	Cannot Black take benefit somehow of the extra move Be7 or will this bishop always end on c5? Even if the latter is true, I indeed cannot think of any reason to prefer 4.Bg5/6.Be3 to reach the Steinitz above 4.e5 at once.

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HgMan God Member Offline Demand me nothing: What you know, you know Posts: 2326 Location: Up on Cripple Creek Joined: 11/09/04 Gender:	Re: 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 e5 Nfd7 B Reply #1 - 01/17/05 at 16:44:40	Post Tools	Print Post
	At first glance, 6 Be3 looks like a wasted tempo over the more popular 6 Bxe7 and 6 h4. Black doesn't look at all handicapped by having brought his/her bishop to e7, so it seems a strange concession for White. Nevertheless, I don't see anything more punishing than 6 ... c5, which ultimately seems to transpose into Steinitz lines (1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 e5 Nfd7), where White commonly brings his/her bishop to e3. So no great shakes, but does White really need to risk running into a sharp MacCutcheon, if s/he is aiming for a Steinitz?

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GuestTom Guest	C13: 3. Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 e5 Nfd7 Be3!? 01/17/05 at 16:05:43	Post Tools	Print Post
	1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.e5 Nfd7 6.Be3!? Is 6.Be3 a good move? It's only rarely played? Why? Tom
	« Last Edit: 08/03/11 at 20:02:51 by dom »

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