that looks like a logical explanation

I have just a weird observation, too unimportant to start a new thread:
after 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 dxe4 5.Nxe4 Be7 6.Nxf6+ Bxf6 I can find four games that continued 7.Nf3?? and not one of them (of which someone rated 2438) continued 7...Bxg5
fourfold mutual blindness

I'm sure it's me, but I just don't like the Burn.  If I'm going to play 3 ... dxe4, I'd rather play 1 ... c6 and not have my light-squared bishop locked in.  What I like about the French is the tension Black can build up on White's center.  The Burn's solid, but I'd prefer a Caro any day of the week.

After 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3/d2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 I have found more than 1100 games with 4...Nf6. In more than 300 games White played 5.Bg5. Not that I like Black's opening play.

i play the Rubenstein to transpose into a burn because i dont like the steinitz variation of the french. It scares me. I know it shouldnt but i makes me feel uncomfortable. Does any one like Moros line with gxf6. I play this my self and have had good results with it against the computer and other wise. People think its weak alot of the time because of the hole in the kingside but what a lot of people dont know is you can castle king side if you cna keep the center closed because it is rather difficult to attack wit hthe pawn complex.

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The big difference is: with the French you can follow up with .. c5, while in the Philidor you do not get to play ... f5 so easily.

Therefore, in the former case, it is likely that a knight landing on e5 necessarily feels shaky of its post, while in the latter a knight landing on d5 cannot be disloged so easily.

First of all the rating of the computer was only about 16XX at the time not unleashed. Second of all its hard to beat a computer for sure but once you realize that you can play aginst one who plays for tactics sure you know it will win more often than not in an open game and the same with a human mind across from you the goal of the opening is to reach a playable middle game. This can be demonstrated best by a certain Emanuel Lasker and Mikhail Tal who often did not play the best move but the psychologically best move. Somthing that can crush a players home prepartion. In the Michigan Class I had spent a couple of months on home prepartion in my opening selection. I play a Kings Pawn and went over a few lines of th philidor. One i dismissed was the exchage where after playing d6 black trades off his e pawn. My friend will played the philidor agaisnt me and played that line one which i was not prepared for becasue what the hell is the point of supporting it with d6. I got nervous and made a serious blunder and lost the game. Same applies to any opening though when you catch some one off guard they are more likely to be hurt than if you play somthing there familiar with. Common Sense. My friend NN in a few games later let me play the same line again only this time he was ready with some home analysis and we had a slightly better for white game going which i flagged. By no means was it lost .

paling agaisnt a computer is intstrutional. My friend atteh club NN has a very strong positional understanding he recentley took part in the michigan open and took a few expert scalps with only a 17XX rating. Im not sure what the elo equivelent of my rating is im not familiar with the system as a comparison the highest rated player in michigan one ben finegold is h high 2600. So my rating is low.

I was going to post my games on my first post but my kid borther formated the computer while i was a way for the weekend and all my database work and home preparation was lost. Now im thinking of getting a Zip drive. Maybe i can pull together a few more games with the white washed AI though. A new chance and ill be sure to plug in the gambit lined you mentioned for counter play in the center. I think that may have been one of the lines fritz tried.

OK, I know about book learning - you are saying that the computer simply didn't play this line with Black any more.  That, I understand.

What I don't understand is how a player rated <1000 beats Fritz even once, let alone 3/3 ...

so what's 997 equal to?

HG man i want you to know another line that is played often by morozevich. gxf6?! its a great idea and if the center remains closed you may even castle kingside as the pawns tend to make a tough nut to crack.

Oh and to whoeversaid it might be premature look at a few botvinik games with an early g4 he was no fish and was a thinker of thinkers in our wonderful game.

Fritz 8 learns from the games you play against it. After trying G4?! afew times agianst it it didnt have it in its opening book and tried 3 different defences all failed my attack was to quick. The counter plays isnt quite fast enough with my king still being in the center its ok. Black has a lack of queen side development. meaning that if he wants to trade start counter play he has to get those pieces out and my pieces are storming down the kingside at an alarming rate. This is one of the reasons i play the sharper double eged gxf6. By the way his elo was mid 1800 and  by the way nice wise crack about the world chapionship. Just casue i took a computer out of its book doesnt mean i can take A real person out of there element as easy. Computers realy on certain algorhythms to survive. So When the Artificial Inteligence saw it was loossing in the paticular line it changed. Just like human and my friend who we will leave NN he changed his openings against me as i change to him.
            Aggressive play should not be condemed by those who havent played it  OTB. My rating btw is only a very lame 997 i am known in the club as the underated wonder. I do fine there but when i get to a tourney i choke. Its odd but i have to get over that. At the club ill give a couple 1900s a run for there money and played one expert and did ok til the endgame. My weak point. If all else agaisnt me trade every thing off and ill probley lose a won or drawn ending.

I presume it has to be 6 Bxf6.  Else: 6 Nxf6 Bxf6 7 Nf3?? Bxg5.

8 g4 looks as though it might cause Black some difficulty if s/he is not careful, but it does seem a bit premature since Black should be able to counterattack in the middle.  Nevertheless, it probably warrants some consideration, since White's attack can be quite dangerous.

He resigned because the telephone rang
6.Nxf6 not 6.Bxf6?

I have recently been exploring some lines of the classical french and upon my home analysis i found a move in the burn which can leave black uncomfortable if he plays BxF6

1. e4 e6
2. d4 d5
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 de
5. Nxe4 Be7
6. Nxf6 Bxf6
7. Nf3 0-0
8. G4?!

is my thrust bad. I made this move against a much higer rated player and he resighned after i played this move. I played it against Fritz 8 and beat it 3 of 3 times and then its ai would not let me play that move anymore. Is there a refuatation or is my Botvinik inspired move Sound?