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Re: Jerome Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.B
Reply #6 - 02/24/05 at 10:50:52
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Rick,

My system crashed most abysmally about the same time you left me that book about Marshall's French/Sicilian Gambit, and having lost your email address, I never got the chance to thank you for it!  Email me at cornstalk at columbus dot rr dot com if you want to talk.  The book was great fun. 

I would've messaged you here, but people often overlook those messages.

Many thanks for the book,

Mark
  

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Re: Jerome Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.B
Reply #5 - 02/24/05 at 06:58:39
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Ah, yes, of course the  Shocked Jerome Gambit Shocked is ridiculous! Shocked

I will not  Tongue defend  Tongue it to my death -- but I will   ??? research  ??? it for a few more years of my life...

Here's what appears to be the debut of yet another great  8) refutation 8) of the Jerome Gambit. White was played by Lt. Sorensen, whose article on the JG in the May 1877 issue of Nordisk Skaktidende launched the Gambit's international recognition. Why not take the time to discover just where and when  Embarrassed Black  Embarrassed went terribly wrong?
Sorensen,S - X [C50]
Denmark, 17.06.1888
[Deutsches Wochenschach 48/49 12/1889]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Bxf7+ Kxf7 5.Nxe5+ Nxe5 6.d4 Qh4 7.0-0 Ng4 8.h3 Bd6 9.e5 Bxe5 10.dxe5 Nxe5 11.Qd5+ Kf6 12.f4 Ng6 13.Nc3 d6 14.Be3 Ke7 15.Rae1 Kd8 16.Nb5 Nf6 17.Qc4 Ne8 18.Bf2 Qf6 19.Bd4 Qh4 20.Rxe8+ Kxe8 21.Nxc7+ Kf8 22.f5 Ne5 23.f6 gxf6 24.Qd5 Kg7 25.Qxd6 Rg8 26.Rxf6 Qxf6 27.Bxe5 and won 1-0

  
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Re: Jerome Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.B
Reply #4 - 02/23/05 at 23:17:47
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I'll be honest, I first read this post and I was laughing at such a rediculous line, but I think it may be just as sound as some other stupid gambits that people will defend to their death.
  
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Re: Jerome Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.B
Reply #3 - 02/19/05 at 19:49:35
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If memory serves, Schiller includes this line in his Unorthodox Chess Openings.  Most of that book leaves one understanding that unorthodox is another word for "really bad," but I remember being amused by his suggestion that much of the appeal of the Jerome was merely the opportunity to blast the bishop into f7, while shouting JEROOOOME at the top of your lungs.   Grin

That said, I've never tried it (shouting or the JG).
  

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Re: Jerome Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.B
Reply #2 - 02/15/05 at 06:13:51
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Grin I would LOVE to see those blitz games!  Grin

(.pgn or .cbv to richardfkennedy@hotmail.com, please)

Here's a 2 12 game I played on ICC last year. It's not fancy, but it was a lot of fun!

perrypawnpusher - WHITE-KING
ICC 2 12 Internet Chess Club, 14.06.2004

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Bxf7+  Shocked Kxf7 5.Nxe5+  Shocked Nxe5 6.Qh5+ Ng6 7.Qxc5 N8e7 8.0-0 Rf8 9.f4 Nc6 10.Qd5+ Ke8 11.d3 Nge7 12.Qg5 Rf7 13.Nc3 h6 14.Qh5 Kf8 15.f5 Ne5 16.d4 N5c6 17.d5 Ne5 18.f6 Rxf619.Rxf6+ gxf6 20.Qxh6+ Kf7 21.Qh7+ Kf8  22.Bh6+ Ke8 23.Qh8+ Kf724.Qg7+ Ke8 25.Qf8#

The Jerome Gambit should inspire confidence in the second player: "I can beat this junk!" he should say. Instead, the opposite sometimes happens:

guest289 - guest5120 [C50]
ICC 2 12 u Internet Chess Club, 05.09.2004

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Bxf7+ Kxf7 5.Nxe5+ Ke8 6.Qh5+ Black resigns 1-0

(White in this game, Louis Morin, has played dozens of online blitz Jerome Gambits, but none of them with such "shock and awe" as a response!)

In the next game (casual, 5 minutes) Geoff Chandler uncorks the Jerome, his opponent whips out Blackburne's "refutation" (Blackburne - NN, London, 1885 -- often given as "around 1880" as in Mr. Blackburne's Games of Chess) -- and Chandler points out that "it ain't necessisarily so."

Chandler,G - Dimitrov,T
5 minute special game, 2004

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Bxf7+ Kxf7 5.Nxe5+ Nxe5 6.Qh5+ g6 7.Qxe5 d6 8.Qxh8 Qh4 9.0-0 Nf6 10.Qd8 Bh3 11.Qxc7+ Kg8 12.Qxb7 Qg4 13.Qb3+ and White won 1-0

Here is Mexican Champion Andres Clemente Vazquez trotting out the Jerome -- giving the odds of Queen's Rook!!

Vazquez,A - Giraudy,M
11.1876
[Remove White's QR]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Bxf7+ Kxf7 5.Nxe5+ Nxe5 6.Qh5+ Ke6 7.Qf5+ Kd6 8.d4 Bxd4 9.c3 Bb6 10.f4 Qf6 11.fxe5+ Qxe5 12.Bf4 Qxf4 13.Qxf4+ Ke7 14.Rf1 Nh6 15.Qe5+ Kd8 16.Qxg7 Re8 17.Qg5+ Re7 18.Rf8# 1-0

Finally, for those of you who think I'm prejudiced in favor of the Jerome Gambit -- of course I am! I like many things that are not good for me. But here's the opening's creator running into an early refutation -- somehow, Alonzo Wheeler Jerome never remembered to mention Black's line in any of his future writings; but perhaps it explain's his preference, later on, for 6.d4 instead of 6.Qh5+

Jerome,A - Norton,D
correspondence, 06.1876

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Bxf7+ Kxf7 5.Nxe5+ Nxe5 6.Qh5+ g6 7.Qxe5 Qe7 8.Qxh8 Qxe4+ 9.Kf1 Nf6 10.d3 Qf5 11.f3 Bf8 12.Nc3 d5 13.h4 Qd7 14.h5 Bg7 15.hxg6+ Kxg6 16.Rh6+ Bxh6 17.Bxh6 b6 18.Ne2 f7 9.Qf8 Qxf8 20.Bxf8 and the result was a draw ½-½  Roll Eyes


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Re: Jerome Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.B
Reply #1 - 02/15/05 at 01:08:15
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At the moment KAISSIBER issue 20 seems to be planned for may/june05. But who knows?! In any case I´m very curious about it and your article.

I play the Jerome Gambit sometimes in fun blitz against weaker opponents just to show them the richness of the Open Games. Probably it´s "almost playable" and more "=+" than "-+". IF BLACK KNOWS WHAT TO DO !

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Jerome Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Bxf7+
01/19/05 at 10:23:51
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'Fess up, everybody -- anybody ever get away with the Jerome Gambit ( also known as Jerome's Double Opening, 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Bxf7+ Shocked Kxf7 5.Nxe5+ Shocked)??

Anybody ever pound it to a pulp?? Grin

I'm collecting games and researching this creation of civil war veteran and hemp farmer  Roll Eyes Alonzo Wheeler Jerome, and I'm always looking for games -- casual, over-the-board, internet, blitz, inebriated, whatever.

Please share. Don't worry if you can immediately refute the opening -- everyone knows, there are so many refutations...   

Thanks!

Rick

p.s. One of these days, when the next issue of Stefan Bucker's "Kaissiber" comes out (hopefully the January one, not the next one in June) the results of my first historical investigation into this admittedly over-the-top opening will see print. I take off my hat to the ultra-creative iconoclast, Stefan - he immediatly tried to "rehabilitate" the opening when I sent him my article!
  
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