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Re: Gibben's Gambit
Reply #11 - 02/28/05 at 10:59:34
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Bronstein actually played this against Simagin sometime in the 1960'ies (1967?). The game is given in one of Sosonko's columns in a New In Chess Yearbook.
I seem remember that Bronstein also mentions this game in one of his books (probably The Sorcerer's Apprentice) but I have been unable to find it in said book.
The game was drawn quickly after Simagin declined to play Nxg4.
There is a German language book from 1988 by Niels Jørgen Jensen (no relation to me) and Rasmus Pape titled "Das Gibbins-Weidenhagen Gambit" (concurring with Lev Zilbermints' spelling) based on the games of corr thematic tournament.

One idea of the opening is to reach Blackmar-Diemer territory after 2...Nxg4 3.e4 d5 4.f3 Nf6 5.Nc3
  
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Reply #10 - 02/25/05 at 15:14:50
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Sorry, to repeat myself but the rest of the site is also very interesting, if you know a little french! Many articles about everything from Diemer to Napoleon and back! Cheesy

http://www.mjae.com/
  
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Re: Gibben's Gambit
Reply #9 - 02/25/05 at 15:02:49
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Here's another site on the Bogart gambit

http://www.mjae.com/bogart1.html
  
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Reply #8 - 02/24/05 at 17:42:11
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The correct name is GIBBINS-WEIDENHAGEN GAMBIT.
  
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Re: Gibben's Gambit
Reply #7 - 02/23/05 at 14:40:48
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More on Bogart, for those interested in "Bogart and Chess":

The latest Chessville Weekly newsletter (email) features the website of Bill Wall. The website looks quite interesting with several articles on various topics.

One of the articles is about Bogart and chess. It contains a chess-related Bogart biography and a number of games, one of which is the game quoted by TalJechin above, other games are against well-known chess player Koltanowsky (won by Koltanowsky) and a game against his wife Lauren Bacall, who also was (is?) a passionate chess player. 

Is a claimed that Bogart played a draw with Sammy Reshevsky in a simul (it was Sammy, not Bogart who gave the simul...), and that Bogart did not say "Play it again, Sam" after the game  Cheesy.

The whole article is at 
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lab/7378/bogart.htm

and Bill Wall's general website is at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/chess.htm
  
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Re: Gibben's Gambit
Reply #6 - 02/21/05 at 16:19:05
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That would have been a clever explanation but I'm afraid my spelling seems to be about as accurate as much of my chess analysis!  I changed the subject line to reflect the proper spelling.  (I think  Roll Eyes  )
  
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Re: Gibbon's Gambit
Reply #5 - 02/21/05 at 14:56:38
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I called it the Gibbon's Gambit because that's what is was called the the "chesstipster.com" website I mentioned in my original post.


Not that I want to split hairs, but doesn't that site call it "Gibbens gambit" or "Gibbens-Weidenhagen"? 

So I thought 'gibbon' might be some joking reference to a mirrored orangutang...  Wink
  
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Re: Gibbon's Gambit
Reply #4 - 02/21/05 at 10:45:50
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I called it the Gibbon's Gambit because that's what is was called on the "chesstipster.com" website I mentioned in my original post.  

I like the name "Bogart Gambit" if he was indeed the first to play it!  I don't know if being the first to play it rates higher than playing it a lot and against strong opposition though.  And I don't know if anyone has done the latter either (perhaps Nick Cummings has?).  Anyway, it would certainly make for a more interesting social discussion if it were named after a movie star.   Smiley
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Re: Gibbon's Gambit
Reply #3 - 02/21/05 at 08:20:33
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Why do you call it Gibbon's gambit then?

Btw, one of the many names you don't mention is Bogart's gambit, I mentioned it briefly at my site some years ago:

http://hem.passagen.se/tjmisha/hb.html

If Humphrey was first with 2.g4 (I think he used it as blitz weapon back when he was a starving actor playing for money...) I'd say it deserves to wear his name. Cheesy
  
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Re: Gibbon's Gambit
Reply #2 - 02/20/05 at 22:17:07
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It may indeed be crazier!  On the other hand I can see how many club players might actually be more comfortable playing the Gibbon's gambit than the Balogh Counter-Gambit.  White gets some open lines, a nice center, and some extra time (probably on the clock too) which is sometimes enough in the world of speed chess.  Actually in many average club games, where mistakes abound, I can see those who would employ it in a regular game as well.  I, however, will not be among those.
  
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Re: Gibbon's Gambit
Reply #1 - 02/20/05 at 21:45:35
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Hmpf, the Gibbons Gambit looks a lot more crazy to me than the Balogh Defense.
  

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Gibben's Gambit
02/20/05 at 20:12:18
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I took a quick look to see if this had been discussed before and didn't find any topic's devoted to it.  I guess that's not too surprising since the gambit is almost certainly unsound.  In case your not familiar with the gambit it goes, 1.d4 Nf6 2.g4.  I've seen some other names for the gambit, including "Posioned Spike", "Bronstein Gamibit" (did Bronstein play this?), and "Gibbens-Weidenhagen Gambit".  Nick Cummings (Helmet on ICC) devotes part of his site (http://www.chesstipster.com/) to analysis of this opening.  It was Nick's note on ICC concerning his site that led me to looking into this wild gambit.  His opinion that the gambit is sound is not shared by me but it seems like a good speed chess weapon at least.  My only outing so far against a 2036 blitz rated opponent on ICC went:  1. d4 Nf6 2.g4 Nxg4 3.e4 Nf6 4.e5 Nd5 5.c4 Nb6 6.Nc3 e6 7.Qg4 d6 8.Bd2 Nc6 9.Nf3 h5 10.Qg3  dxe5 11.dxe5 Nb4 12.O-O-O Nd3+ 13.Kb1 Nxc4 14.Bg5 15.Bxd3 Qc6 16.Bxc4 Qxc4 17.Rd8#.

OK, obviously not a good game (and I don't need to see a whole bunch of posts telling me how each side could have played better  Smiley  ) but the psychological impact seems evident.  Curious to see if this gets any more interest than the last crazy opening I brought up!  (Balogh Counter-Gambit)   Grin      
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