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Re: Breslau variation in Ruy Lopez - worth it?
Reply #2 - 04/02/05 at 09:01:22
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Thanks for that lively version of a different way to prosecute this attack. The second knight sacrifice must have been a shock for White. Was 17 Nf3 really necessary? If not, and if the second sacrifice of a Black knight could be weathered, White should surely have walked it. What about 17Nf5? Is it lost for White then? Does not seem like it to me.

Be that as it may, this game does seem a rather idiosyncratic version of the variation and, I fancy, quite atypical. It led, ultimately, to success for Black. But I would love to know of other examples of attempts.

I thought editing was better etiquette than posting a reply to myself - I ran the opening through the library at chessgames.com (had to pay for special membership first - nifty site that), and saw, apart from the Krasenkow game, only 5 others, 2 of which occurred at the Hand of Tarrasch against Wolf (one a draw in 1922 and one a win in 1923). The other games were Loman v Euwe 1925 (draw); Szabo v Balogh 1937 (draw) and Djuric v Kocem 1973 (Kocem won with Black).

Now I am extremely intrigued. The attack is starting to look better and better for Black. It appears to be played seldom, so it must have a strong refutation (like the Halloween). I would love to see it. What I like about this is that the attack feels good (and White's position feels very underdeveloped), yet with a knight down it's not clear how to convert it to make it a plausible variation to play over the board. Any inputs here would be greatly appreciated - bear in mind my foundations in theory are very thin.
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Re: Breslau variation in Ruy Lopez - worth it?
Reply #1 - 03/31/05 at 17:44:47
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Here's the latest game in this line.  It was awhile ago and Black goes astray, but it's worth something that a player of Krasenkow stature would decide to give it a go.


[Site "Glogow"]
[Date "2001.09.08"]
[White "Jaracz,Pawel"]
[Black "Krasenkow,Michal"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Nxe4 6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 d5 8.dxe5 Be6 9.c3 Be7 10.Re1 0-0 11.Nd4 Nxe5 12.f3 Bd6 13.fxe4 Qh4 14.Rf1 Ng4 15.h3 Qg3 16.hxg4 dxe4 17.Nf3 exf3 18.Rxf3 Qh2+ 19.Kf1 Bxb3 20.axb3 Qh1+ 21.Ke2 Qxg2+ 22.Kd3 Rad8 23.Nd2 Bf4+ 24.Kc2 Bxd2
25.Bxd2 Rxd2+ 26.Qxd2 Qxf3 27.Rxa6 Qxg4 28.Qd5 h5 29.Kb1 h4 0-1

  

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Breslau variation in Ruy Lopez - worth it?
03/31/05 at 16:02:01
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Hello all.

I posted this question on a different board and was kindly referred here, to what seems a truly great site.

A book first published in 1952, and not altered in the edition I have, says of the Breslau variation in the Ruy Lopez "The ultimate consequences of the sacrifice of a piece offered by Black are not yet entirely elucidated."

(Tartakower and du Mont: 500 Master Games of Chess, Dover 1975, p84).

Have "the ultimate consequences" been "entirely elucidated" in 50 years? Sacrificing a knight for what looks like an ominous attack, but appears capable of being parried, sounds like looking for trouble. Since the 11th move that offers the knight is an alternative to a move that falls into the Tarrasch Trap, it would be useful to know what the current thinking is on the Breslau variation.

For the sake of completeness, here it is:

1. e4, e5
2. Nf3, Nc6
3. Bb5, a6
4. Ba4, Nf6
5. 0-0, Nxe4
6. d4, b5
7. Bb3, d5
8. dxe5, Be6
9. c3, Be7 (normal position)
10. Re1, 0-0 (necessary for the Tarrasch trap to be an option for White)
11. Nd4

Now Black plays, instead of the solid Nxd4, 11...Nxe5, sacking his knight.

12. f3, Bd6
13. fxe4, Bg4
14. Qd2, Qh4.

Unless this must lead to victory for Black, it does not look like a good idea to me. And I cannot see the inevitability of Black victory. What's the latest on this?
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