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Re: Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
Reply #11 - 07/29/07 at 17:30:08
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jeupham wrote on 07/29/07 at 14:00:49:
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150 attack? I meet it with the 160 defence and use the rating difference.
  

Those who want to go by my perverse footsteps play such pawn structure with fuzzy atypical still strategic orientations

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Re: Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
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Re: Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
Reply #9 - 07/29/07 at 13:58:56
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I would like to add a further suggestion which I've played online many a time and am storing up for OTB use:

After 7..h6 White can try 8. h3!?  and may the best attacker / defender win!  Grin

I win about a minute on the clock and then usually mate Black shortly after.  Wink

Much more interesting than pussy retreating moves.

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Re: Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
Reply #8 - 07/29/07 at 04:51:30
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Well, 7...0-0 certainly is not a problem. This is what we all hope for when playing Be3 and Qd2, don't we? (I play a similar system against the Pirc, but postpone the move Nf3). So 7...Bxh6 like Kaufman-Ivanov, Washington 1998.
  

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Re: Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
Reply #7 - 07/28/07 at 20:28:04
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Thanks, MNb, I like your 8.Bf4 e5 9.de suggestion. Looks like a reasonable way for white to play it. 

But I don't understand why 5...a6 6.Qd2 b5 is a problem for white after 7.Bh6 00 9.Bd3 Bb7 10.h4 (Fressinet-Smirin, 1-0, 06') or 10.Bg7 Kg7 11.e5 (played by Hebden).
  
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Re: Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
Reply #6 - 07/26/07 at 21:02:26
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White might try 8.Bf4 e5 9.Bc4+ Kh8 10.dxe5.
As 5...a6 6.Qd2 b5 is also a problem, I suggest 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.Qd2 postponing e2-e4 a bit. White's strategy is the same of course, but this move order limits Black's options.
Against the Pirc I recommend 4.Be3 Bg7 5.Qd2 and after Ng4 6.Bg5 etc. White often can play f2-f4.
  

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Re: Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
Reply #5 - 07/26/07 at 20:33:49
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Paddy wrote on 05/14/05 at 19:17:02:
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Hi people,

  How would you deal with this line?
  1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.Nc3 g6 4.e4 Bg7 5.Be3 0-0
  And here I use to play :
  6.Qd2 (would 6.h3 be better?)
  6...Ng4
  I'm really fed up with this move.
  6. Bg5 h6 7. Bh4 (and the bishop loses the c1-h6 diagonal).  This line doesn't appears on the books. What would   you play against this?


There is not shortage of examples in the databases. White is still better.  The bishop still applies pressure h4-d8. The Black kingside is weak. The Ng4 will have to retreat, then in many lines e4-e5 is strong. One example:

Duncan,C (2265) - O'Donovan,R (2195) [B08] Challengers Hastings ENG (3), 1998 1.Nf3 g6 2.e4 Bg7 3.d4 d6 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Be3 0-0 6.Qd2 Ng4 7.Bg5 h6 8.Bh4 c6 9.Bd3 Nd7 10.h3 Ngf6 11.e5 dxe5 12.dxe5 Nd5 13.Nxd5 cxd5 14.e6 fxe6 15.Bxg6 Rxf3 16.gxf3 Ne5 17.Bh5 Nc4 18.Qb4 Nxb2 19.Rg1 1-0

6 h3 is also good but not strictly necessary for White to keep an edge. It was partly the discovery of this that launched the 150 attack.


HI:

But 7...f6 8.Bh4 Bh6 9. Qd1  Bg7 10. Bc4+ Kh8 11. Qe2 a6 12. a4  Nc6 13. Rd1 Nh6 14. d5  Ne5 15. Nxe5 fxe5 16. f3  Ng8
17. O-O Nf6 18. Qd2 Bd7 19. Bb3 Qe8 20. a5  h6 21. Bf2 g5 22. Be3 Nh5 23. Ne2 Qg6 24. h3  Nf4
25. Nxf4 gxf4 26. Bf2 Rf7 27. Kh2 Bf6 28. Rg1 Qh5 29. Bc4 Rg8 30. Qe1 Rfg7 31. Bf1 Rg5 32. Rd2 Qg6
33. g4  fxg3+ 34. Rxg3 Qh5 35. Bg2 Rxg3 36. Bxg3 Rxg3 37. Qxg3 Bh4 0-1, J.Benjamin-E.Gufeld, 2000

Haven't found much on the 150 Attack so far on this forum (I play the white side).  Dug up this post which touches on a concern of mine (6...Ng4 7.Bg5 f6 8.Bh4 Bh6).

How might white improve?
Thanks in advance.
  
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Re: Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
Reply #4 - 05/19/05 at 06:21:00
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Hi MNb

  I'm playing white! :-D

Thx
  

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Re: Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
Reply #3 - 05/19/05 at 05:50:43
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The discovery that x...Ng4 is problematic for Black, made White players change from 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f3 to 4.Be3 Bg7 5.Qd2.
So I think Holbox should switch to a setup with c6, Nbd7, Qa5 and e5.
  

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Re: Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
Reply #2 - 05/17/05 at 01:53:09
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Hi Paddy,

  I have found some games played with this line. I should stududy them to improve my play.

  Thx
  

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Re: Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
Reply #1 - 05/14/05 at 19:17:02
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Hi people,

  How would you deal with this line?
  1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.Nc3 g6 4.e4 Bg7 5.Be3 0-0
  And here I use to play :
  6.Qd2 (would 6.h3 be better?)
  6...Ng4
  I'm really fed up with this move.
  6. Bg5 h6 7. Bh4 (and the bishop loses the c1-h6 diagonal).  This line doesn't appears on the books. What would   you play against this?


There is not shortage of examples in the databases. White is still better.  The bishop still applies pressure h4-d8. The Black kingside is weak. The Ng4 will have to retreat, then in many lines e4-e5 is strong. One example:

Duncan,C (2265) - O'Donovan,R (2195) [B08] Challengers Hastings ENG (3), 1998 1.Nf3 g6 2.e4 Bg7 3.d4 d6 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Be3 0-0 6.Qd2 Ng4 7.Bg5 h6 8.Bh4 c6 9.Bd3 Nd7 10.h3 Ngf6 11.e5 dxe5 12.dxe5 Nd5 13.Nxd5 cxd5 14.e6 fxe6 15.Bxg6 Rxf3 16.gxf3 Ne5 17.Bh5 Nc4 18.Qb4 Nxb2 19.Rg1 1-0

6 h3 is also good but not strictly necessary for White to keep an edge. It was partly the discovery of this that launched the 150 attack.
  
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Killer Chess Opening Repertoire - 150 Attack
05/14/05 at 16:59:36
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Hi people,

  How would you deal with this line?

  1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.Nc3 g6 4.e4 Bg7 5.Be3 0-0

  And here I use to play :

  6.Qd2 (would 6.h3 be better?)

  6...Ng4

  I'm really fed up with this move.

  6. Bg5 h6

  7. Bh4 (and the bishop loses the c1-h6 diagonal).


  This line doesn't appears on the books. What would   you play against this?

   Thx

   



  

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