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Re: Modern Defence 1 e4 g6 2 d4 Bg7 3 Nc3 d6 4 Nf3
Reply #9 - 10/12/05 at 09:27:52
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Being a poor student I cannot obtain any of those excellent sources (which Tiger's book certainly is, if you believe the critics).

Could someone tell me what happened to the old 150-attack? I still have good results with it; on the other hand, in my area the Pirc/Modern is virtually extinct...
  

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Reply #8 - 10/06/05 at 00:35:41
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Lost,

You've been doing so well lately, what happened here? You forgot to give us anything to help us to believe you.  Cry
  
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Reply #7 - 10/05/05 at 23:13:00
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Grin whats going on everyone... I would like to say that when black plays c6 or a6 threatning b5 simply play a4  and let black figure out what hes going to do next.. alot of times they follow up with b6 after which e5 is a good move ( assuming they played a6)... look into what im saying, a4 after a6, or even sometimes c6.


4...a6 5.Bc4 is good for white.

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Reply #6 - 10/05/05 at 22:43:33
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Thanks for pointing us in the right direction, Michael!  I wish there were some way we could get automatic notification of developments in other threads that affect the lines we're talking about.  I guess that's just a technical impossibility.
  
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Reply #5 - 10/05/05 at 22:23:37
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Grin whats going on everyone... I would like to say that when black plays c6 or a6 threatning b5 simply play a4  and let black figure out what hes going to do next.. alot of times they follow up with b6 after which e5 is a good move ( assuming they played a6)... look into what im saying, a4 after a6, or even sometimes c6.
  
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Re: Modern Defence 1 e4 g6 2 d4 Bg7 3 Nc3 d6 4 Nf3
Reply #4 - 09/21/05 at 03:19:32
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@ basqueknight -- In a post to the thread 'Playing the Pirc -- Pirc Alert', I've summarised what Tiger has to say about the anti-Austrian with 4 ...a6, so you might like to take a look at that. He criticises 5 ...Nd7 and upholds 5 ...b5, providing lots of fascinating new analysis and suggestions! He seems to think 7 a4 is strong for White, though not terrifying. (I've got some new thoughts here, which I'll try to post later today.)
  
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Reply #3 - 09/20/05 at 23:08:05
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the only real reason i fear playing the modern is the austrian it is a force to conted with however i guess i could suck it up as i play against the 4 pawns and samisch in the kings indian. Just need to look a little at it.
  
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Re: Modern Defence 1 e4 g6 2 d4 Bg7 3 Nc3 d6 4 Nf3
Reply #2 - 05/17/05 at 18:59:37
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Thanks v. much for this! -- I had no idea Tiger was doing a book on the Modern. I looked, a while back, at his games with 4 f4 a6 and was disappointed to see that he plays the older system with an early ...b5 (and usually comes second!), but against 4 Nf3 I see he's played both systems, so it could well be an informative book! In the 6 ...Bb7 variation, after 7 Re1 (which it must be admitted scores well for White!) he's twice played 7 ...Nd7 (the main line?; 7 ...e6 and 7 ...b4!? 8 Nd5 a5 seem to be alternatives) 8 Bf1 c5, and although he lost both games, this wasn't because of the opening.
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Re: Modern Defence 1 e4 g6 2 d4 Bg7 3 Nc3 d6 4 Nf3
Reply #1 - 05/17/05 at 11:46:01
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I've heard that Tiger Hillarp Persson has a book coming out very soon, called Tiger's Modern (qualitychessbooks) which is quite likely to deal with his long time main weapon vs 1.e4 i.e. 4.f4 a6!? - so presumably he'll have some recommendation after 4.Nf3 a6 too...
  
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Modern Defence 1 e4 g6 2 d4 Bg7 3 Nc3 d6 4 Nf3 a6
05/17/05 at 09:19:00
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Strongly tempted though I am to agree in principle with Topnotch's assertion that there's no such thing as a Black defence that's sound, dynamic AND non-theoretical, I'm also tempted to wonder whether, judging by the scarcity of theoretical materials out there, the Modern mightn't be it!

I'm having a devil of a job finding ANYTHING on the 'Classical' main line with 4 ...a6 5 Be2, and wonder if anyone can help me. All Speelman & McDonald (2001) say is that, in Informator 72, Rublevsky gives 5 ...b5 6 0-0 Nd7 7 a4 b4 8 Nd5 a5 9 c3 e6 10 Ne3 Bb7 11 Qc2 Ngf6 12 e5 de 13 Ne5 (13 de Nd5 14 Nc4 h6!?, S&M) 0-0 14 Nec4 as very slightly better for White. I'd like to know whether Black should have anything real to fear here -- I can't see it -- and whether ...Rb8 on move 8 is an alternative. But chiefly, I'd like to know why there's no mention, either in S&M or anywhere on this site, of the older(?) line with 6 ...Bb7. This seems to have been played more often than 6...Nd7, including by Smyslov and other strong players. Is it considered inferior, and if so why? Where, if anywhere, can I find adequate material on this stuff?

  
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