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Re: Suechting Variation
Reply #5 - 06/07/05 at 19:17:00
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There seem to be a number of less common Slav lines that yield decent results.  I must admit I'm uncomfortable with 4 ... Qb6--not to my taste--but I've long had a secret passion for the Smyslov Variation, with 5 ... Na6, which deserves more attention.  I think the Chebanenko (4 ... a6) is in a spot of trouble at the moment after 5 c5 (see other threads on this and Ruslan's most recent update), but I'd be inclined to prefer it to 4 ... Qb6.  In fact, I've had some success with 4 ... a6 in a correspondence game, and would likely try it again...
  

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Re: Suechting Variation
Reply #4 - 06/07/05 at 18:03:31
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HgMan, many thanks for the reply. So it seems that the idea of 4..Qb6 to solve the Bc8 problem did already exist at the time of Nimzo!
I am not sure why 4..a6 should be better, it might just be a matter of taste.

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Re: Suechting Variation
Reply #3 - 06/04/05 at 23:23:07
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A quick scan of Sadler's book on the Slav while boxing up chess books yielded nothing (though I was looking quickly), but Burgess's book on the Slav does have a few interesting if inconclusive pages on 4 ... Qb6.
  

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Re: Suechting Variation
Reply #2 - 06/02/05 at 21:53:03
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The what variation? Shocked

Just when I thought I was au fait with theory, ohh well, I guess you live you learn.

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Postscript: Try NCO or better yet anything written by Mathew Sadler on the Slav
  

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Re: Suechting Variation
Reply #1 - 06/02/05 at 09:26:35
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It seems as though this line had some heavyweight practitioners.  I must admit that the line doesn't appeal to me a great deal, but it is interesting to look at the ideas that stem from this variation...

[Event "Karlsbad"]
[Date "1911.??.??"]
[White "Burn,Amos"]
[Black "Nimzowitsch,Aaron"]
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.e3 Nf6 4.Nc3 Qb6 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.Be2 Bxf3 7.gxf3 Nbd7 8.cxd5 cxd5 9.0-0 e6 10.Kh1 Be7 11.Rg1 0-0 12.Qf1 Rfd8 13.Qg2 Bf8 14.f4 g6 15.h4 Bg7 16.h5 Rac8 17.hxg6 hxg6 18.Bd3 Nf8 19.Ne2 Qa5 20.Ng3 Ne8 21.f3 Rc7 22.Bd2 Qb6 23.Bc3 Nd6 24.Rae1 f5 25.Qd2 Qc6 26.Rg2 Bf6 27.Rh2 Rdd7 28.Kg2 Rh7 29.Rxh7 Rxh7 30.b3 g5 31.fxg5 Bxg5 32.f4 Bh4 33.Rg1 Rg7 34.Kh2 Qe8 35.Nf1 Ng6 36.Rg2 Qf7 37.Qe2 Bd8 38.Be1 Ne8 39.Kg1 Bb6 40.Bg3 Nf6 41.Nh2 Qc7 42.Qd1 Nf8 43.Bh4 N8h7 44.Rxg7+ Qxg7+ 45.Kh1 Qh6 46.Qe1  1/2

[Event "Gothenburg"]
[Date "1920.??.??"]
[White "Reti,Richard"]
[Black "Nimzowitsch,Aaron"]
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.e3 Nf6 4.Nc3 Qb6 5.Bd3 Bg4 6.Qa4 e6 7.c5 Qc7 8.b4 Nbd7 9.f4 Be7 10.Nf3 Bxf3 11.gxf3 Nh5 12.Bd2 0-0 13.Ne2 f5 14.Ng3 Nhf6 15.0-0-0 b6 16.Qc2 a5 17.Rdg1 axb4 18.Bxf5 exf5 19.Nxf5 Rf7 20.Nh6+ Kf8 21.Nxf7 Kxf7 22.e4 bxc5 23.e5 cxd4 24.exf6 Nxf6 25.Rg2 Qd6 26.Rhg1 Bf8 27.h4 Ra3 28.h5 b3 29.Qb2 bxa2 30.Qb7+ Qd7 31.Qxd7+ Nxd7 32.Kb2 Nb6 33.Ka1 Rxf3 34.Kxa2 Nc4 35.Bc1 Kf6 36.Rd1 Ba3 37.Bxa3 Rxa3+ 38.Kb1 Ne3 39.Rg3 c5 40.Rd2 Ra6 41.Rb2 Re6 42.Rb7 Nf5 43.Ra3 c4 44.Ra8 Re1+ 45.Ka2 Re2+ 46.Kb1 d3 47.Rf8+ Ke6 48.Rb6+ Ke7 49.Rxf5 Re1+ 50.Kb2 d2 51.Rxd5 d1=Q 52.Rb7+ Kf6 53.Rb6+  1/2

[Event "Karlsbad"]
[Date "1911.??.??"]
[White "Rubinstein,Akiba"]
[Black "Alekhine,Alexander"]
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 c6 4.Nc3 Qb6 5.Qc2 Bg4 6.Bg5 Nbd7 7.e3 Ne4 8.Bf4 e6 9.Bd3 Qa5 10.0-0 Nxc3 11.bxc3 Bxf3 12.gxf3 dxc4 13.Bxc4 Nb6 14.Qb3 Rd8 15.Be2 Bd6 16.Bg3 Bxg3 17.hxg3 0-0 18.f4 c5 19.Bf3 Rd7 20.a4 Nd5 21.Rfc1 g6 22.Qb5 Qxb5 23.axb5 cxd4 24.cxd4 b6 25.Rc4 f5 26.Rc6 Kf7 27.Bxd5 exd5 28.Rac1 Rfd8 29.Kf1 Ke7 30.Ke2 Rd6 31.R6c3 R6d7 32.Kd3 Ra8 33.Rc6 Rd6 34.Ke2 Rxc6 35.Rxc6 Kd7 36.f3 Re8 37.Kd3 Re7 38.g4 Re6 39.Rc1 Re7 40.Rh1 Ke6 41.Rc1 Kd7 42.Re1 Rf7 43.Ra1 Kd6 44.Rc1 Kd7 45.Rc6 Rf8 46.Ke2 Rf7 47.Kf2 Rf8 48.Kg3 Re8 49.Rc3 Re7 50.Kh4 h6 51.Kg3 h5 52.Kh4 Rh7 53.Kg5 fxg4 54.fxg4 hxg4 55.Kxg4 Rh1 56.Kg5 Rb1 57.Ra3 Rxb5 58.Rxa7+ Kd6 59.Kxg6 Rb3 60.f5 Rxe3 61.f6 Rg3+ 62.Kh7 Rf3 63.f7 Rf4 64.Kg7 Rg4+ 65.Kf6 Rf4+ 66.Kg5 Rf1 67.Kg6 Rg1+ 68.Kf6 Rf1+ 69.Kg7 Rg1+ 70.Kf8 Rd1 71.Ke8 Re1+ 72.Kd8 Rf1 73.Rd7+ Kc6 74.Ke8 Rf4 75.Re7 Kb5 76.Rc7  1-0

[Event "Karlsbad"]
[Date "1911.??.??"]
[White "Schlechter,Carl"]
[Black "Suechting,Hugo"]
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 c6 4.Nc3 Qb6 5.Qc2 Bg4 6.c5 Qc7 7.Ne5 Nbd7 8.Nxg4 Nxg4 9.Qf5 h5 10.e4 g6 11.Qf4 e5 12.dxe5 Bxc5 13.e6 Nde5 14.exf7+ Kd7 15.exd5 Nxf2 16.dxc6+ bxc6 17.Qa4 Nxf7 18.Be2 Nxh1 19.Bf4 Bd6 20.Rd1 Ke7 21.Rxd6 Nxd6 22.Ne4 Rad8 23.Qd4 Qa5+ 24.b4 Qf5 25.Bxd6+ Rxd6 26.Qxd6+ Kf7 27.Bc4+ Kg7 28.Qd4+ Kh7 29.Qxa7+ Kh6 30.Qe3+ g5 31.h4 Re8 32.Bd3 Kg7 33.Kd2 Qf4 34.hxg5 Qxe3+ 35.Kxe3 Ng3 36.Kd4 Nxe4 37.Bxe4 Ra8 38.Bxc6 Rxa2 39.b5 Kg6 40.b6 Kxg5 41.b7 Rb2 42.Kc5 Rc2+ 43.Kb6 Rb2+ 44.Bb5  1-0

[Event "Scheveningen"]
[Date "1913.08.??"]
[White "Janowski,Dawid Markelowicz"]
[Black "Alekhine,Alexander"]
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 Qb6 5.e3 Bf5 6.Bd3 Bxd3 7.Qxd3 Qa6 8.0-0 dxc4 9.Qe2 b5 10.Ne5 Nbd7 11.f4 e6 12.Bd2 c5 13.a4 b4 14.Nb5 Rc8 15.Nxc4 Be7 16.Ncd6+ Bxd6 17.Nc7+ Rxc7 18.Qxa6 Ke7 19.e4 Nxe4 20.Qd3 f5 21.Rae1 c4 22.Qe2 Ndf6 23.Rc1 Nd5 24.g3 g6 25.Be1 Rhc8 26.Bf2 a5 27.Rfe1 b3 28.Qf3 c3 29.Rxe4 fxe4 30.Qxe4 cxb2 31.Re1 Kd7 32.Qxe6+ Kc6 33.Rb1 Rb8 34.Qe2 Kd7 35.Rxb2 Ba3 36.f5 gxf5 37.Qf3 Bxb2 38.Qxd5+ Ke7 39.Qe5+ Kd7 40.Qxf5+ Ke7 41.Be3 Rb6 42.d5 Rd6 43.Qxh7+ Kd8 44.Qg8+ Kd7 45.Qf7+ Kc8 46.Qe8+ Rd8 47.Qe6+ Rdd7 48.d6 Rb7 49.Qc4+  1-0

[Event "Budapest"]
[Date "1921.??.??"]
[White "Sterk,Karoly"]
[Black "Gruenfeld,Ernst"]
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 c6 4.Nc3 Qb6 5.e3 Bg4 6.h3 Bh5 7.cxd5 Nxd5 8.Be2 e6 9.0-0 Nd7 10.e4 Nxc3 11.bxc3 Bd6 12.Nd2 Bxe2 13.Qxe2 0-0 14.Rb1 Qc7 15.Nc4 Be7 16.g3 b5 17.Bf4 Qd8 18.Nd2 Nb6 19.Nf3 Bd6 20.Bxd6 Qxd6 21.Rfd1 a6 22.Rd3 c5 23.Rbd1 c4 24.R3d2 Rfc8 25.Rb1 Rab8 26.Ng5 Qe7 27.Qh5 h6 28.Nf3 Na4 29.Rc2 b4 30.cxb4 Rxb4 31.Rbc1 Rb5 32.e5 c3 33.g4 Qb7 34.g5 g6 35.Qg4 h5 36.Qf4 Rb2 37.Ne1 Rxc2 38.Rxc2 Rc4 39.Qe3 Qb1 40.Kf1 Qd1 41.Qe4 Rxd4 42.Qa8+ Rd8 43.Qe4 Rd2 44.Kg2 Nc5 45.Qe3 Nd3 46.Nxd3 Qxc2 47.Nc5 Re2 48.Qd4 Qd2 49.Nd3 Qxg5+ 50.Kf3 Qd2 51.Kg2 Rxf2+ 52.Qxf2 Qxd3 0-1

[Event "Vienna"]
[Date "1921.??.??"]
[White "Mueller,Hans"]
[Black "Euwe,Max"]
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 c6 4.Nc3 Qb6 5.Qc2 Bg4 6.e3 e6 7.Bd3 Nbd7 8.Bd2 Be7 9.Rc1 0-0 10.Na4 Qc7 11.cxd5 exd5 12.b4 Rac8 13.Ng5 h6 14.Nf3 Rfe8 15.h3 Bxf3 16.gxf3 Bf8 17.Bf5 Qf4 18.Ke2 Qxd4 19.Be4 Qe5 20.Bc3 Qh5 21.Bf5 Rcd8 22.Rcg1 Ne5 23.Rg3 d4 24.exd4 Nxf3+ 25.Kf1 Nxd4 26.Bxd4 Rxd4 27.a3 Re2 0-1

  

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Suechting Variation
06/02/05 at 07:03:55
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I am looking for information about the Suechting variation of the Slav which consist of playing 4...Qb6 instead of the Chebanenko 4...a6.

It would great if Ruslan could publish an article about it. I have only seen Kamsky playing it on ICC.

Any tip will be welcome,

Thanks

-- Richard
  
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