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Re: The North Sea Defence
Reply #27 - 12/31/15 at 08:58:04
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Magnus Carlsen's blog is still available, but the other three links given in this thread are all broken. Tells us a lesson about the modern media. It is a pity, in particular, that Rolf Martens' online debate of his ideas are gone (and yes, I've checked "waybackmachine").

In the following game, 7...Qd5 was already recommended by Martens and correctly assessed as equal. 10....Qg6 = was more precise. After Black misses 20...Nc5 (=), he gets into trouble.

  
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Reply #26 - 10/18/14 at 09:56:59
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Neil McDonald in his October 2014 Update:

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The North Sea Defence is a curious hybrid of the Modern and Alekhine Defence. What revitalises the system for Black is that after 1.e4 g6 2.d4 Nf6 3.e5 Nh5 4.Be2 Black can play 4...d6! ignoring the threat to h5

Yes, and that's why 4...d6! was already given by Martens and strongly recommended ("!") and analyzed in my article in Schach-Report 10/1991, p. 31. By the way, this move is connected with another pleasant memory. I won with it against Mephisto Lyon 68030 at the Dortmund tournament, division D 1991. Hey kids, these were the days when board chess computers were still permitted to compete in tournaments!

According to the person who executed the moves for the computer on the board, none of my moves was predicted by the machine. Smiley
  
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Re: The North Sea Defence
Reply #25 - 10/01/10 at 12:17:15
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A bit off-topic, but in Round 10 Carlsen played 5...Bb4 in the Main Line Advance Caro-Kann.
  

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Re: The North Sea Defence
Reply #24 - 10/01/10 at 09:53:06
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Nice to see one of Marten's ideas played on the top level, but it usually ends like it did, even though the idea looks reasonable. I'd guess that it's the lack of theory and practice that makes it hard to fine tune the play.

Btw, a strong local Northsea expert, suggested Qxd6!? instead, aiming for Nh5-f4 when appropriate. Maybe something for Gawain to take a look at, in next month's edition...
  
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Reply #23 - 10/01/10 at 08:49:43
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Viking wrote on 09/30/10 at 16:51:39:
Magnus on his game with Adams quoted from his blog (http://www.arcticsec.no/index.php?button=blog&main_image=35)
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Despite the unusual opening choice I was happy with my position entering the middle game. Becoming a bit too optimistic I played for a win but underestimated his attack and lost deservedly.


Exactly. Magnus came out of the opening with a very reasonable position. But because he lost I see comments on the internet like trash, junk, dodgy, rude to his teammates etc. Mildly annoying.  Wink
  
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Reply #22 - 09/30/10 at 16:51:39
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Magnus on his game with Adams quoted from his blog (http://www.arcticsec.no/index.php?button=blog&main_image=35)
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Despite the unusual opening choice I was happy with my position entering the middle game. Becoming a bit too optimistic I played for a win but underestimated his attack and lost deservedly.
  
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Re: The North Sea Defence
Reply #21 - 09/28/10 at 09:16:29
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Clearly Smiley As I remember he came terribly close to losing to Adams in the London tournament last winter, so you'd think he'd take him half way seriously!

I guess its hard for him to get motivated when he's not really playing for anything beyond pride.
  
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Re: The North Sea Defence
Reply #20 - 09/28/10 at 02:00:28
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Teenagers.  Roll Eyes Clearly Magnus is already bored with his 2800 rating!
  
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Re: The North Sea Defence
Reply #19 - 09/27/10 at 19:39:29
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It seems Magnus just wants to play funchess, his play against Adams was just begging for problems and a loss. It seems, he doesn´t take his opponents seriously, maybe Garri should take a call with him.
  

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Re: The North Sea Defence
Reply #18 - 09/27/10 at 17:56:31
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Carlsen does have a very good score against Adams. Still Adams is a bit too strong to play cat and mouse...

Carlsen should leave the northsea for ICC blitz...
  
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Re: The North Sea Defence
Reply #17 - 09/27/10 at 15:22:03
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Yes, North Sea not for casual swimmers.

I would be interested in Carlsens thought process in deciding to play this vs Adams.
Though I do think the opening in this game went ok for Black.
  
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Reply #16 - 09/27/10 at 13:13:00
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Didn't work too well tho'.
Adams 1-0 Carlsen

Turned out nice again.

  
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Re: The North Sea Defence
Reply #15 - 09/27/10 at 11:21:58
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... and now Carlsen plays it versus a 2700+!!
Maybe this opening has no refutation after all.
It certainly is a different way to go.
  
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Re: The North Sea Defence
Reply #14 - 07/24/09 at 00:06:21
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Stefan Bücker has a longer article on Chesscafe.com about the North Sea defense: http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kaiss33.pdf
  

What kind of proof is that?
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Re: The North Sea Defence
Reply #13 - 07/23/09 at 23:57:40
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Tim Harding wrote about the defense on SOAK http://www.soak.com/topic/chess/article/tshow/15906/the+north+sea+defence+refute...

"THE NORTH SEA DEFENCE REFUTED?
Some years ago, Swedish analysts came up with a hybrid of the Modern and Alekhine's Defences that goes 1 e4 g6 2 d4 Nf6 3 e5 Nh5 4 Nf3 d6. Known as the North Sea Defence, it is still an almost unknown variation -- not mentioned in most theory books.

The defence took a big knock in the high-level postal game D.Stern-G.Hjorth, 1994, when White played 5 Bc4 Nc6 6 Ng5! e6 7 g4! Be7 (If7...Ng7 8 Qf3 Qe7 9 Bb5 Bd7 10 Ne4 when 10...Nxd4 or Nxe5 fails to 11 Nf6+ Kd8 12 Qxb7.) and now Stern played simply 8 Nf3! when the black knight gets stuck on the bad square g7.

GM Julian Hodgson and some others have tried to revive this defence by 5...d5. However, this means Black abandons any hope of quick pressure against the white centre.

- Tim Harding
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