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Re: cd cd
Reply #6 - 07/11/05 at 13:33:35
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Re:  Moskow-Becerra

Move 11.Bxc6

Silman and Donaldson say that this variation is very drawish. Sad  Becerra was probably just trying to find some sort of life in the line after Nh5?!.  Personally, I am suspicious of 6.Bf4 Bf5 here for Black, especially if he keeps up the symmetry with 8.Bb5 Bb4? (9.Ne5!). Tongue  See the Botvinnik-Tal game where Black was simply smothered (I'll look it up later if anyone is interested).

S & D recommend is 11. Qb3, following Seirawan-Yusupov (1983!)
  
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Reply #5 - 07/11/05 at 13:01:00
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I think the moves were: 1.Nf3 Nf6, 2.c4 c6, 3.Nc3 d5, 4.cd5 cd5, 5.d4 Nc6, 6.Bf4 Bf5, 7.e3 e6, 8.Bb5 Bb4, 9.Qb3 0-0, 10.0-0 Bc3, 11.Bc6 Bb2, 12.Bb7 Ba1, 13.Ra1 Nh5!? (the theoretical novelty according to Moscow).

The position is still rather stale equality after 14.Be5. A rook move like 14...Rb8 or 14...Rc8 should be fine, as should be 14...f6.
  

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Reply #4 - 07/11/05 at 12:06:44
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I play the exchange slav, but I have no idea how to find the game you have referenced. Can you just post the moves here so I can see?
  
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Reply #3 - 07/11/05 at 06:40:24
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check out moskow-beccerra 2560 usa july 8 in denker invitational, game is on icc liblist tn by him nh5 was bad ie be5 and white is better any comments appreciated thx eric
  
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Re: cd cd
Reply #2 - 07/10/05 at 16:16:39
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Hi,

Once again, the Exchange Slav is not at all drawish, if Black doesn't want a draw.  Of course, if Black plays for a win, White also has good chances.  Here's how one recent game of mine went:

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1.c4 c6 2.d5 d5 3.cd5 cd5 4.Bf4 (Nc3 is probably more challenging) Nc6 5.Nf3 Nf6 6.Nc3 Qb6!? Cheesy 7.Qd2?! (Silman and Donaldson only consider 7.a3 and 7.Na4 in their book on the Exchange Slav.) Ne4 8.Ne4?! de4 9.Ne5 Qd4 10.Nc6? (10.Qc2!) Qd2+ 11.Kd2 bc6 12.g3 f6 and Black went on to win.  (Granted, only after I foolishly gave back the pawn with 13.Bg2 e5?? 14.Bd4! and had to win it all over again Embarrassed)

I believe it was John Watson who stated that trading off a single set of pawns (he was talking about the French Exchange) shouldn't make the game a draw.  It is also true in the Slav Exchange.  As a long-time Slav player, I have had to find ways to win against lower rated players in the Exchange Slav countless times.  Fortunately, I've almost always been successful!
  
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Re: cd cd
Reply #1 - 07/09/05 at 09:41:10
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Typically drawish because of the pawn symmetry, but I think it gets a bad rap.  With patience, this can be a very interesting variation, and White should not presume that s/he can get an easy draw here (nor should Black for that matter).

I would also presume that Black might be able to transpose to some variations of the Chebanenko that are reasonably favorable, though I haven't tried to work out if it's possible in practice...
  

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07/09/05 at 08:11:43
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current status of exchange slav??? whats the deal
  
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