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Re: The "Brick" 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3??!
Reply #10 - 08/18/05 at 12:49:30
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Is it such a problem? I had a look in. Here is a sample line.

1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d6 3.g4 h5 4.f3 e5 5.Nf2 Nc6 6.Bc4 hxg4 7.fxg4 Qh4 8.Qf3 Qf6 9.Qg3 Bd7 10.g5 Qg6

Black can long castle and have a comfortable game, imho.

I don't know much of Sicilian. I prefer 1.d4 Original post got me interested. What can black ask for in the opening ? Neutralising white initiative, not stepping on the mine fields and have a playable game, is it not? Does 4...h5 provide a solution? That's what we need to debate.

  

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Re: The "Brick" 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3??!
Reply #9 - 08/18/05 at 12:10:46
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After 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d6 3.g4 h5 4.f3 looks interesting. After 4...hxg4 5.fxg4 Nf6 6.Nf2 I quite like the White position. He can just get on with development and aim for a Closed Scillian type position where Black's normal plan of queenside pawn expansion is quite risky as he's probably going to have to put his king there.
  
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Re: The "Brick" 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3??!
Reply #8 - 08/18/05 at 11:55:35
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Meeting Trash by Trash continues

1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d6 3.g4 h5 4.gxh5 e5 5.d3 Nf6 6.Bg5 Qb6 7.b3 Bg4 8.f3 Bxh5 9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nd2 Nc6 11.Bg2 0-0-0

1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d6 3.g4 h5 4.gxh5 e5 5.Qf3 Nf6 6.Nc3 Nc6 7.Bb5 Rxh5

1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d6 3.g4 h5 4.gxh5 e5 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.Nd5 Nf6 7.Nxf6+ Qxf6 8.d3 Nd4 9.Bg2 Qh4 10.Ng1

I think 4...h5 is very much playable with similar theme. Exploit d4 square. Pressurise h3 knight to move, develop Queen side fast and castle long. If Bb5,Bxc6 is played, strategy could be to give marching order to central pawn mass. The more I think of it the more I like 3...h5. Any views?






  

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Re: The "Brick" 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3??!
Reply #7 - 08/18/05 at 11:32:25
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After 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d5 I think that 3.exd5 must be best, and then after 3...Bxh3 4.gxh3 Qxd5 5.Qg4!? looks the right way to go and after a plausible sequence such as 5...Nc6 6.Bg2 Qe5+ 7.Qe4 0-0-0 8.Qxe5 Nxe5 9.0-0 then White has the two bishops but grotty kingside pawns. I'm not sure quite where the balance lies, but I doubt that White is worse. If 3...Qxd5 then 4.Nc3 Qe5+ 5.Qe2 and I think that sooner or later Black has to take on h3 or he'll just be slightly worse as the pawn on c5 is looking misplaced and then the positions will be similar to those in the first line.
  
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Re: The "Brick" 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3??!
Reply #6 - 08/18/05 at 10:50:19
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Meeting Trash by Trash. Some lines

1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d6 3.g4 h5 4.g5 e5 5.Nc3 Bg4 6.f3 Bxh3 7.Bxh3 Qxg5 Thretening Qh4+


1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d6 3.g4 h5 4.g5 e5 5.d3 Be7 6.Rg1 Nc6 7.Nc3 Nd4 Intending Bg4 8.Bg2 Be6 9.f3 Qd7 10.Nf2 0-0-0


1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d6 3.g4 h5 4.g5 e5 5.Qf3 Nc6 6.Bc4 Qe7 7.Na3 Bg4 8.Qe3 0-0-0

Your comments please, Smyslov_Fan





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Re: The "Brick" 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3??!
Reply #5 - 08/18/05 at 10:23:57
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Two games where black won. I haven't yet studied them, though



Garcia Padron,J (2460) - Alarcon Robles,P [B20]
Malgrat del Mar op Malgrat del Mar, 1998

1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d5 3.exd5 Bxh3 4.gxh3 Qxd5 5.Rg1 Nc6 6.Nc3 Qe5+ 7.Be2 Nd4 8.Kf1 Qxh2 9.d3 Qxh3+ 10.Ke1 Qe6 11.a4 Nf3+ 12.Kf1 Qh3+ 13.Rg2 Qh1+ 14.Rg1 Qxg1# 0-1



Wall,B - Popovych,O (2273) [B20]
World op 29th Philadelphia (4), 06.07.2001

1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d6 3.g4 Nc6 4.d3 e5 5.Nc3 a6 6.f4 Qh4+ 7.Nf2 Nf6 8.f5 h5 9.gxh5 Nd4 10.Be3 Bd7 11.Nb1 Bc6 12.Nd2 Nxf5 13.Qe2 Nxe3 14.Qxe3 Qxh5 15.Be2 Qh6 16.Qf3 0-0-0 17.0-0-0 Bd7 18.h4 Be6 19.h5 d5 20.Kb1 Kb8 21.Nf1 dxe4 22.dxe4 Rxd1+ 23.Bxd1 c4 24.Ne3 Bc5 25.Nfg4 Nxg4 26.Nxg4 Qg5 27.Nf2 Rd8 28.Be2 Rd2 29.Rd1 Rxd1+ 30.Nxd1 b5 31.a3 a5 32.Nc3 b4 33.axb4 axb4 34.Nd5 Qg1+ 35.Ka2 Qd4 36.c3 b3+ 37.Kb1 Qd2 38.Bd1 Bxd5 39.exd5 Be3 0-1

  

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Re: The "Brick" 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3??!
Reply #4 - 08/18/05 at 07:10:30
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I managed to dig up this game, which makes me rather tempted to play it myself.

[Event "29. World Open"]
[Site "Philadelphia, PA USA"]
[Date "2001.07.07"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Zimbeck, David"]
[Black "Gold, Paul M"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B20"]
[EventDate "2001.06.30"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 Nc6 3.Nc3 d6 4.g4 g6 5.d3 Bg7 6.Bg2 e6 7.O-O Nge7 8.Be3 O-O 9.f4 f5 10.gxf5 exf5 11.Ng5 Rb8 12.h4 Nd4 13.h5 fxe4 14.hxg6 hxg6 15.dxe4 Nec6 16.e5 dxe5 17.Bd5+ Kh8 18.Kg2 Bh6 19.Rh1 Nf5 20.Rxh6+ Nxh6 21.Qh1 Kg7 22.Qxh6+ Kxh6 23.Rh1+ Kg7 24.Rh7+ Kf6 25.Nce4+ Kf5 26.Ng3+ Kg4 27.Bf3# 1-0
  
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Re: The "Brick" 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3??!
Reply #3 - 08/18/05 at 03:44:17
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What's the  white idea after 2.)....d5?


Now this Brick (Have I spelt it correctly? Or is it a 'P'? Wink )thing has got me involved. I think after 3.d4 white gets Albin's with colours reversed and 2.Nh3 cannot hurt so much, being white. I want to get to the bottom of this and I think I'll be spending my next few evenings with this _rick Wink
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Re: The "Brick" 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3??!
Reply #2 - 08/18/05 at 02:28:24
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Smyslov_Fan, I suggest you change Nh6 to Nh3 in the subject. (NOTE: I have now made this change Smiley - your friendly forum moderator, alumbrado) You have given me home work. I'm a old fationed main line guy and I love learn refutations of these lines. You must have worked at it. Why don't you share your thoughts?
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Re: The "Brick" 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3??!
Reply #1 - 08/16/05 at 11:50:25
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What's the  white idea after 2.)....d5?
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The "Brick" 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3??!
08/16/05 at 03:17:26
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Yeah, this is a real opening.  There's a local master who has been publicising his blitz wins in this and other lines.  He wins very quickly even against known titled players on ICC.  His main idea is 1.e4 c5 2.Nh3 d6?!

Here is one such game between GM Fedorowicz and Brian Wall.  The notes are by Brian Wall and augmented by Fritz

1. e4 c5 2. Nh3!!

The Brick by Life Master Jack Joung

2 ... d6  3. g4 Nf6

GM Fedorowitz is a World renowned expert on the Najdorf so his piece setup is
automatic.



4. g5 Nxe4!! 5. d3

The trap- Black loses a piece - Jennifer Shahade , among many others, fell for
this too. The rest is just my usual sterling technique.

5 ... Bxh3 6. Bxh3 Nxg5 7. Bxg5 Nc6 8. Nc3 h6 9. Bh4 g5 10. Bg3 Bg7 11. Bg2 e6

12. h4 Qb6 13. Rb1 O-O-O 14. O-O Bf6 15. Qf3 gxh4 16. Bxd6 Bd4 17. Bh2 f5

18. Kh1 Rhg8 19. Ne2 Be5 20. Nf4 Rg4 21. Nxe6 Bxh2 22. Nxd8 Qxd8 23. Qxf5+ Kb8

24. Qxg4 Bc7 25. Bxc6

{Black forfeits on time}
1-0

Does anyone have good ideas on how to refute this trash?



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