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Re: King's Indian books
Reply #44 - 02/22/08 at 14:19:43
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lnn2 wrote on 02/06/06 at 03:56:48:
i have Gallagher's Samisch, he covers everything for both colours, including Benoni, Panno, Byrne lines, and also 6. Bg5/6. Nge2.


Thanks mate I bought a second hand copy tonight. Gallagher writes really good chess books.
  

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Reply #43 - 02/07/08 at 14:08:01
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Hi im new here but I am a loyal kings indian supporter. If I had the money I would have a lot more books on it but I do not. My favorite however is "Bronstein on the kings indian"

If you wish to learn the ideas and themes of the opening a long with going over the games that layed the foundation of the opening then I highly recomend it. Is it up on current theory? no. But it is a very good read. I first started playing the kings indian with out any book knowledge. Just the ideas I had found in Bronstein's games.
  
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Re: Gallagher's book "Play the King's Indian"
Reply #42 - 10/06/07 at 18:25:34
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Markovich wrote on 10/01/07 at 16:09:01:
LeeRoth wrote on 07/03/07 at 03:12:03:
cma6 wrote on 07/03/07 at 01:43:54:
   I would appreciate it if someone who has the Gallagher book could
give an outline of the lines he covers, i.e., does  he cover any 9 Nd2 material not covered in Golubev or Nunn's "New KID"?


I have Gallagher's Play the King's Indian.  etc., etc..

Really I think that White can learn something from any repertoire book, which is what it recommends!  But I agree that White can learn a little extra something from Gallagher's book, which offers insights into both sides' ideas.  

Still, I wonder if I'm alone in finding his repeated, pointed dismissals of White's ideas to be rather obnoxious.  Perhaps no single one of them is obnoxious, but when it comes out on page after page, it's a little wearing.  Also rather suspicious, if I may say so.  Really if all of the opinions expressed by Gallagher in these pages were borne out, there would be little reason to play 1.d4, or to answer this sadly antiquated move with anything other than the KID.


The Book was intended as a Repertoire one for Black, written by a life long advocate of the opening, so why would you expect to find any inspiration for White there.

Why do you even have this book at all?

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Reply #41 - 10/06/07 at 12:29:44
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Doesn't all chess writing these days involve a bit of marketeering? Very few really write unobjective coverage for both Black and White.  To some extend they all attempt to pump up the intended audience. Afterall, to sell the book, you have to sell the opening and you have to sell your approach to the opening.
  

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Reply #40 - 10/06/07 at 11:40:52
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Would characterise such as off-the-cuff attempts to enthuse advocates rather than intention to offend any lentils-chompers. Sure he has nothing against anyone in particular who plays the exchange variation.
Sure he just typed it out and didnt give it a second thought. Dont fret. He only takes a couple of weeks to write books so that would have been a coupla seconds.

Any experienced KID player worth his salt will have a massive record against the exchange. Is the case in my experience, as despite many years of warning to the contrary in oodles of books, weaker players STILL play it looking for the all-elusive half. No IMs GMs ever played it against me, indeed only one person above 2200. Also in d4 d6 c4 e5 de (?!).
Is actually quite difficult for white to play, though Grivas explains well. Could be another Grivasly named Grivas variation perhaps. Any Greeks on your mother's side Lev?

Anyone for some vegetarian cuisine btw? Good tofu this part of the world.

Exi - yes , a worthy Kazim KID DVD. I concur.
Golubev also good as Geof notes
Plus: get Gufeld book. Inspiring stuff.

Geof - thanks for notes on Kalinin. have been pondering  that. May well buy now. Your notes always very helpful.
  
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Reply #39 - 10/06/07 at 10:00:43
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It is common for advocates of "aggressive" openings to be also aggressive in making their claims and evaluations. You can find plenty of examples on this board!

Authors on the Petroff and Slav definitely seem less zealous in comparison Roll Eyes
  
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Re: Gallagher's book "Play the King's Indian"
Reply #38 - 10/01/07 at 17:15:39
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Markovich wrote on 10/01/07 at 16:09:01:
LeeRoth wrote on 07/03/07 at 03:12:03:
cma6 wrote on 07/03/07 at 01:43:54:
   I would appreciate it if someone who has the Gallagher book could
give an outline of the lines he covers, i.e., does  he cover any 9 Nd2 material not covered in Golubev or Nunn's "New KID"?


I have Gallagher's Play the King's Indian.  etc., etc..

Really I think that White can learn something from any repertoire book, which is what it recommends!  But I agree that White can learn a little extra something from Gallagher's book, which offers insights into both sides' ideas.  

Still, I wonder if I'm alone in finding his repeated, pointed dismissals of White's ideas to be rather obnoxious.  Perhaps no single one of them is obnoxious, but when it comes out on page after page, it's a little wearing.  Also rather suspicious, if I may say so.  Really if all of the opinions expressed by Gallagher in these pages were borne out, there would be little reason to play 1.d4, or to answer this sadly antiquated move with anything other than the KID.


I'm with you. It's truly wearing. I think the opening is better than its reputation but not as good as Gallagher claims. You didn't want to single out one obnoxious comment, but his ranting of exchange variation wimps is too much for me.
  

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Re: Gallagher's book "Play the King's Indian"
Reply #37 - 10/01/07 at 16:09:01
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LeeRoth wrote on 07/03/07 at 03:12:03:
cma6 wrote on 07/03/07 at 01:43:54:
    I would appreciate it if someone who has the Gallagher book could
give an outline of the lines he covers, i.e., does  he cover any 9 Nd2 material not covered in Golubev or Nunn's "New KID"?


I have Gallagher's Play the King's Indian.  etc., etc..

Really I think that White can learn something from any repertoire book, which is what it recommends!  But I agree that White can learn a little extra something from Gallagher's book, which offers insights into both sides' ideas. 

Still, I wonder if I'm alone in finding his repeated, pointed dismissals of White's ideas to be rather obnoxious.  Perhaps no single one of them is obnoxious, but when it comes out on page after page, it's a little wearing.  Also rather suspicious, if I may say so.  Really if all of the opinions expressed by Gallagher in these pages were borne out, there would be little reason to play 1.d4, or to answer this sadly antiquated move with anything other than the KID.
  

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Re: King's Indian books
Reply #36 - 10/01/07 at 15:11:09
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exigentsky wrote on 10/01/07 at 07:22:57:
I don't know about books, but Rustam's A World Champion's Guide to the King's Indian is quite nice and instructive.


Exigentsky: thanks for the reference. How much does the DVD have on the 9 Nd2 line?
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Reply #35 - 10/01/07 at 07:22:57
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I don't know about books, but Rustam's A World Champion's Guide to the King's Indian is quite nice and instructive.
  
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Gallagher's book "Play the King's Indian"
Reply #34 - 07/03/07 at 13:55:05
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LeeRoth wrote on 07/03/07 at 03:12:03:
cma6 wrote on 07/03/07 at 01:43:54:
    I would appreciate it if someone who has the Gallagher book could
give an outline of the lines he covers, i.e., does  he cover any 9 Nd2 material not covered in Golubev or Nunn's "New KID"?


I have Gallagher's Play the King's Indian.  It's a great book, but its a repertoire book for Black.  If you're looking for more balanced coverage, you might be happier with Gallagher's earlier Starting Out Guide, which is meant to be more objective, albeit more basic.   

Nevertheless, even though Play the King's Indian is a Black repertoire book, I still think that White can learn something.  For example, I found Gallagher's explanation of each side's plans in the Nd2 variation to be very helpful.  Basically, he feels that White's Q-side attack is too quick to be ignored and cites Beliavsky-Solak, St Vincent 2000 as an example of what can befall Black if he's not careful. 

Gallagher thinks Black has to take some sort of preventative action on the Q-side, but he doesn't like 9..c5, which gives White a target on the Q-side and a chance to develop an initiative with Rb1 annd b4. The repertoire is therefore based on 9..a5.

After 9..a5, he gives 10.a3 Nd7 (he doesn't cover 10..Bd7 and refers the interested reader to the Starting Out book for coverage) 11.Rb1 f5 12.b4 Kh8 (he explains why this has become the main move, displacing 12..f4 and 12..Nf6) and now he covers 13.Qc2 through the game Lputian-Dolmatov, Rostov 1993 and 13.f3 through Ljubojevic-Kasparov, Linares 1993.

I don't have the Starting Out book, so I can't compare, but even for the player of the White pieces, Play the King's Indian is well worth getting. LeeRoth


  Thanks, Lee, this was extremely useful.
  
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Re: Gallagher's book "Play the King's Indian"
Reply #33 - 07/03/07 at 03:12:03
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cma6 wrote on 07/03/07 at 01:43:54:
   I would appreciate it if someone who has the Gallagher book could
give an outline of the lines he covers, i.e., does  he cover any 9 Nd2 material not covered in Golubev or Nunn's "New KID"?


I have Gallagher's Play the King's Indian.  It's a great book, but its a repertoire book for Black.  If you're looking for more balanced coverage, you might be happier with Gallagher's earlier Starting Out Guide, which is meant to be more objective, albeit more basic.    

Nevertheless, even though Play the King's Indian is a Black repertoire book, I still think that White can learn something.  For example, I found Gallagher's explanation of each side's plans in the Nd2 variation to be very helpful.  Basically, he feels that White's Q-side attack is too quick to be ignored and cites Beliavsky-Solak, St Vincent 2000 as an example of what can befall Black if he's not careful.  

Gallagher thinks Black has to take some sort of preventative action on the Q-side, but he doesn't like 9..c5, which gives White a target on the Q-side and a chance to develop an initiative with Rb1 annd b4. The repertoire is therefore based on 9..a5.

After 9..a5, he gives 10.a3 Nd7 (he doesn't cover 10..Bd7 and refers the interested reader to the Starting Out book for coverage) 11.Rb1 f5 12.b4 Kh8 (he explains why this has become the main move, displacing 12..f4 and 12..Nf6) and now he covers 13.Qc2 through the game Lputian-Dolmatov, Rostov 1993 and 13.f3 through Ljubojevic-Kasparov, Linares 1993.

I don't have the Starting Out book, so I can't compare, but even for the player of the White pieces, Play the King's Indian is well worth getting.

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Gallagher's King's Indian books
Reply #32 - 07/03/07 at 01:47:16
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Thx to Alias for providing a link to an excerpt of the Gobulev book.
I did compare the contents to coverage of the Nd2 variation in
Starting Out The Kings Indian. My findings:
The coverage of ideas and typical manoevres is far better in SOTKI.
The Gobulev book has more games and detail, and is probably more
up to date.
But I am not sure that the detailed coverage outweights the clear explanations of Galagher for those who have a limited time to study variations and need a good compass in a pratical game. At least not till your rating is 2000+.

Even then you should do well to compare the Gobulev-book with Galaghers other book on the KI, which also provides more detailed variations but still retains a lot of practical advice.



Micawber, which of Gallagher's KID books would you recommend to someone who wants to play the 9 Nd2 line and who already has Golubev's book?
                                         Thanks, CMA
  
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Gallagher's book "Play the King's Indian"
Reply #31 - 07/03/07 at 01:43:54
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mlz3 wrote on 11/18/05 at 11:40:42:
Hello Photophore!

I have Gallagher's book "Play the King's Indian" and I love it! In this book, he actually recommends trying 14...a5!? rather than 14...Ng6 in response to the a4 advance. The game he cites appears below.

Koutsin,S (2455) - Frolov,A (2520) [E99]
Platonov mem Kiev (11), 1995

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.0-0 Nc6 8.d5 Ne7 9.Ne1 Nd7 10.Be3 f5 11.f3 f4 12.Bf2 g5 13.a4 a5 14.Nd3 b6 15.b4 axb4 16.Nb5 Nf6 17.Be1 g4 18.Bxb4 g3 19.h3 Bxh3! 20.gxh3 Qd7 21.Qc2 Qxh3 22.Bd1 Ng6 23.Qg2 Qh6 24.Qh1 Nh4 25.Ne1 Nxe4! 26.Ng2 Rf5 27.fxe4 f3 28.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 29.Rxf3 Qxh1+ 30.Kxh1 Rxf3 31.Kg1 Rb3 32.Nxc7 Rf8 33.Be1 Bf6 34.Nb5 Be7 35.Ra3 Rxa3 36.Nxa3 Rf3 37.Nc2 Bg5 38.Bb4 h5 39.Nce1 Rf6 40.a5 bxa5 41.Bxa5 Rf2 42.Bc7 Be7 43.Ne3 Re2 44.N1g2 Ra2 45.c5 Ra1+ 46.Nf1 h4 47.Nxh4 Bxh4 48.Bxd6 Re1 49.c6 Rxe4 50.c7 Rc4 51.Bxe5 Kf7 52.Nxg3 Bxg3 ½-½

Cheers,
mlz3



Hi Mlz3:
  I'm refugee from White side of Bayonet Attack (I don't think White gets anything much.) I'm looking for good material on the Nd2 MDP line. I've just ordered Golubev's new book.
  I would appreciate it if someone who has the Gallagher book could
give an outline of the lines he covers, i.e., does  he cover any 9 Nd2 material not covered in Golubev or Nunn's "New KID"?
                              Thanks, CMA
  
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Re: King's Indian books
Reply #30 - 03/04/07 at 13:09:14
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I have two books by Gallagher and a very old book I browse through now and again:
Mastering the KI by Bellin/Ponzetto. Of course the variations are outdated by now, but their
positional explanations, still can give you inspiration.
  
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Reply #29 - 03/03/07 at 19:46:18
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I went out yesterday and bought a copy of Gallagher's KID Starting Out book.  It's a very good overview and introduction, I think.  I maintain my view that if you're playing very serious chess, books don't help much except with broad ideas.  For all else, you need a database.
  

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Reply #28 - 03/02/07 at 17:46:08
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I have yet to get  Golubev's work but my KID library consists of Gallagher's Starting Out: KID, Play the KID, Marovic's Play the KID, Dzindi's KID video,  Martin's ABC's of the KID dvd, & his book KID Battleplans.

All are great but I think Martin's stuff here is very underrated. The ABC's dvd is fantastic for beginners and vetrans alike...a good refresher. TheKID Battleplans is nothing more then games collections featuring the KID. I found this work to be a treasure trove of different ideas and again if you want to learn the KID you can't go wrong playing over as many master level KID games as you can!
  
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Reply #27 - 03/02/07 at 11:54:56
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SniperOnG7 wrote on 02/05/06 at 22:18:51:
Talking about Gallagher's books... Does anyone has his one on the Samisch because I am curious about which systems he examine in it. Huh


And here I thought g7 was a dark square.

I myself have Geller's two-volume KID set.  It's no longer up-to-date, but it's a useful overview.  You can't rely on books much any more for theory.  You have to have a database.
  

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Reply #26 - 03/02/07 at 03:48:28
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Gallagher's and Golubev's books are excellent.  They are both devotees of the King's Indian and have a lot to say that is interesting and insightful.

For a slightly different approach to the King's Indian, "King's Indian Defence, Modern Practice" by Alexander Kalinin is an interesting book.  When I first saw this book I thought it was basically a database dump with a bit of annotation thrown in to conceal that fact.  Maybe something that would have been very useful in the 80s, but which no serves any purpose in these days of ChessBase and ChessAssistant.  However, after spending a little time with the book I have changed my mind.

There is almost no textual explanation in this book and it is somewhat out of date (published in 1999, the vast majority of the games are from the 90's).  It contains 451 King's Indian games, organized by opening, lightly annotated in Informator style.  The annotations range from just a few comments in an entire game, to relatively thorough analysis of some games.  They are probably no better (and, some cases, probably not as thorough) as those you could find in ChessBase.  But Kalinin's rather minimalistic approach is applied fairly intelligently, and he often has some interesting comments (I guess I should say symbols) at the critical points.  I kind of like the approach where the annotator points out the most important or difficult points but generally leaves you to figure the rest out for yourself, although this probably would not be to everyone's taste.

There are two things, IMO, that give Kalinin's book some value and prevent it from being a database dump.  First, the games appear to have been chosen as much for their quality and demonstration of typical plans and themes as their theoretical interest.   The game selection is excellent, with many games from the top King's Indian players of the 90's.  (I just opened the book at a random point and found the games D. Komarov-Kiril Georgiev, Gleizerov-Nunn, Khalifman-Nijboer, and Kasparov-Smirin, a not unrepresentative sample of the level of games in this book.)  The selection of games for their instructive value seems quite well done, and I haven't got the feeling (at least so far) going through them that any of the games were included just as "filler."  

Second, Kalinin uses a "TM" symbol (stands for "Typical Method") when a particularly instructive or common manoever is played, and I am finding this to be very useful.  Many of the games (I am guessing less than half but probably more than a third of the games, although I haven't done a count and might be way off) have the TM sybmol in them, and I find that it serves as a useful signal that something particularly useful is coming up and to pay special attention.  Although it didn't strike me as being much when I first looked at this book (just this stupid TM symbol evey now and then), I have come to believe that it is quite a helpful feature and makes this book particularly useful for learning King's Indian themes/ideas.  (There is even a little self-test of 50 positions at the end that contain classic King's Indican combinations for both Black and White.)

I like Kalinin's book as a "understanding-based" approach to learning the King's Indian.  I wouldn't call it an exceptionally good book; it's not.  It's a useful book for someone trying to learn to how to play (or more about playing) in the "style" of the King's Indian, who wants to develop his/her "feeling" for typical King's Indian positions and general understanding of the theory, and who doesn't mind working at it a bit.  I find the games rather heavy going (top players, tough battles, difficult opening, and light annotations) and as a result I only look at the book when I am in the mood to make some effort.  But I also feel that I am learning some useful things. All in all, not a bad little book, and I think it as a part of the "Teach Yourself In Chess Openings" series it achieves its goals.

However, if you are looking for a cutting edge up-to-date presentation of theory presented in a more digestible format, Golubev's excellent book is definitely a better option.

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Reply #25 - 02/10/07 at 08:22:32
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Haven't been able to get any details on it but noticed Everyman was going to be publishing a book called The Classical King's Indian Uncovered.  Here's the link where I saw it: http://www.amazon.com/Classical-Kings-Indian-Uncovered/dp/1857445171/sr=8-16/qid....

  
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Reply #24 - 07/14/06 at 00:44:24
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Greetings,

Ward's book on the Saemisch is given a good review on Silman's site et al.

As for KID books - http://www.chess-books-online.com/king's-indian-defence/ - gives a reasonable list, most recent first. It seems to be a good site!

Also, in general, I normally use www.bookbrain.co.uk for locating the cheapest prices for a book - use the ISBN finder, it's the most accurate. If Amazon isn't included in the list of suppliers, check it out directly - sometimes it's missed out - and cheaper!

I don't know if there's an equivalent to BookBrain in the US...!?

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Reply #23 - 02/12/06 at 18:39:00
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I agree with Alias about the .pdf introductions - I ordered that Sicilian book from Chess Stars based on the introduction.   If you look at the US amazon site it's got exceprts from Gallagher's Play the King's Indian book which might prove useful.
  
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Reply #22 - 02/10/06 at 21:33:03
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Perhaps needless to say, it would be nice if someone who obtains Golubev's book could post a brief rundown of MG's recommendations (I assume it's a repertoire-type book).  In the Saemisch, I would tend to play 6...Nc6 against 6. Be3 and 6...c5 against 6. Bg5, but it seems more likely that Golubev (or perhaps any repertoire book) would recommend 6...c5 against both, as Gallagher does.  It should be interesting to compare Golubev's various recommendations/preferences to Gallagher's.
  
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Reply #21 - 02/10/06 at 08:48:41
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In this particular thread, we are discussing books.  I would love to discuss the Mar de Plata variation, but I think we should take that to the appropiate thread, the Mar de Plata thread.  Bring your questions over there and I will join you.

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Reply #20 - 02/10/06 at 07:30:17
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I thought it was appropriate to post here. Since someone else asked about that particuar line, in this exact thread. And I play KID for white. So even though I know that 13. ...a5 is "best", I still have an interest in knowing the details of 13. ...Ng6 etc.
  
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Reply #19 - 02/10/06 at 01:40:10
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I think this issue belongs on another thread.  Here we are talking about books.  If we want to delve into specific lines, I think we should go to those threads.  I talk about this issue, the 13.a4 move, in another thread and I still maintain that 13... a5 is the best or most critical counter.  I have also mentioned that 13.... Rf6 (with idea of ...Rh6) is on the rise and being experimented with, which can only help things for 13... a5 since I feel that whatever you can do with ...Rf6, you can do with 13...  a5 first.

Check the Mar de Plata variation thread and/or others.

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Reply #18 - 02/10/06 at 01:13:39
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The problem with KID books is that Theory changes too fast : I have the 2 volumes of Nunn & Burgess , but I must see they are becoming obsolete
An example :
In Taimanov variation , after
9 Ne1 Nd7
10 Be3 f5
11 f3 f4
12 Bf2 g5
13 a4 Ng6
14 a5 Kh8
N&B consider only 15 Nd3 , and forget completely 15 Nb5
that looks as a refutation of 14..Kh8 , after 15...Nf6
16 Nxa7
In my databases I find 16...g4!( ! is from the database)
17 Nxc8  but there is only a line , without any game as example : 
What does Gallagher say about this line?
I analysed this line but I find Black compensation as insufficient ,and I can't understand the ! of my database
In my mind 14..Kh8 is definitely refuted
What do you think about it?


I just got the Nunn/Burgess book (used) that covers this info. The 13. a4 line is the one I am interested in, so I was wondering what the exact line given for 16 ...g4! was in your database. My initial thoughts are:
White plays Na7 so that he can snap up the light squared bishop, which in turn gives him additional options when defending on the kingside. For example, white can play h3 in some lines without fearing Bxh3. Now, one point of 15. ...Nf6 is to clear the d7 square for the bishop, so that after 16. Nxa7 Bd7, the bishop is not traded so easily. The chessbase online database has a few games that continue: 17. c5 g4 18. c6 bxc6 19. Nxc6, and now black is compelled to play ...Bxc6. So the bishop is traded for the knight after all, unless someone can improve for black along the way. By the way, it seems to me that black gets a pretty strong attack, even in that case.  So with this in mind, maybe 16. ...g4! is considered better, because the bishop is going to be exchanged anyway, so why not continue the k-side attack?

Anyway go ahead and clue me in on why this particular line is so bad for black. It doesn't look any worse than the other 13. a4 lines in my opinion.
  
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Re: King's Indian books
Reply #17 - 02/09/06 at 17:30:56
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I would not compare a starting out book with Golubev's book.  It is for two different audiences.  The starting out book by Gallagher is for those who are starting out in the KID or in a specific variation and need an overview of a quick guide.  Golubev's book is written for those of us who are ready to devour the details and nuances of the variations and those of us who have already a bit more experience.   That's my opinion.

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Reply #16 - 02/09/06 at 17:18:24
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Thx to Alias for providing a link to an excerpt of the Gobulev book.
I did compare the contents to coverage of the Nd2 variation in
Starting Out The Kings Indian. My findings:
The coverage of ideas and typical manoevres is far better in SOTKI.
The Gobulev book has more games and detail, and is probably more
up to date.
But I am not sure that the detailed coverage outweights the clear explanations of Galagher for those who have a limited time to study variations and need a good compass in a pratical game. At least not till your rating is 2000+.

Even then you should do well to compare the Gobulev-book with Galaghers other book on the KI, which also provides more detailed variations but still retains a lot of practical advice.
  
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Re: King's Indian books
Reply #15 - 02/09/06 at 16:40:23
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He wrote, "...objectively ...c6 is more critical".   As for me,  as long as he covers the lines AND he does provide an index of variations, it is all right.  I can find what I am looking for.
  

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Re: King's Indian books
Reply #14 - 02/09/06 at 14:59:18
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Call me old fashioned but remember the days when books were put together systematically with the breakdown of variations into a tree. I prefer this. Nowadays we have books coming out all over the place with this games format. In this sample bit of a chapter you can already see the drawbacks - the main move given is ...Nc8 because it is the game, but in the footnote he says ...c6 may be objectively best.
  
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Re: King's Indian books
Reply #13 - 02/08/06 at 09:43:45
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The Golubev book seems to be out now. Judging from the list of content, it's only Nc6 in the classical. There's also an index of Golubev's opponents which probably means that the book is based on his own repertoire.

http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/31XSamp.pdf

I prefer when the publisher includes the introduction in the pdf preview rather than analysis. A good example is the Safe Sicilian book by Chess Stars.
  

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Reply #12 - 02/06/06 at 11:35:08
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Thank you very much  Grin
So i suppose it's worth buying
  
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Reply #11 - 02/06/06 at 03:56:48
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i have Gallagher's Samisch, he covers everything for both colours, including Benoni, Panno, Byrne lines, and also 6. Bg5/6. Nge2.
  
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Reply #10 - 02/05/06 at 22:18:51
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Talking about Gallagher's books... Does anyone has his one on the Samisch because I am curious about which systems he examine in it. Huh
  
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Reply #9 - 02/05/06 at 16:37:06
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The Keene book, if it is a reprint, was originally published in 1992.

That book is very heavy on theory, with relatively little in the way of verbal annotations.

It had 42 complete model games, and about 1 million game fragments.

It was okay at the time, but has since been surpassed by Gallagher's books, IMO.
  
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Reply #8 - 02/04/06 at 22:16:19
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Don't forget Starting Out with the Kings Indian (also by Joe Galagher).
While his new book covers more detail and is more up to date, the older book has more
explanations, and could be more usefull to lower ranked players.
Note: The game posted above is also explained in Starting Out: with the important recommendation of the a5-b6 plan for black.
  
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Re: King's Indian books
Reply #7 - 11/18/05 at 11:40:42
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Hello Photophore!

I have Gallagher's book "Play the King's Indian" and I love it! In this book, he actually recommends trying 14...a5!? rather than 14...Ng6 in response to the a4 advance. The game he cites appears below.

Koutsin,S (2455) - Frolov,A (2520) [E99]
Platonov mem Kiev (11), 1995

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.0-0 Nc6 8.d5 Ne7 9.Ne1 Nd7 10.Be3 f5 11.f3 f4 12.Bf2 g5 13.a4 a5 14.Nd3 b6 15.b4 axb4 16.Nb5 Nf6 17.Be1 g4 18.Bxb4 g3 19.h3 Bxh3! 20.gxh3 Qd7 21.Qc2 Qxh3 22.Bd1 Ng6 23.Qg2 Qh6 24.Qh1 Nh4 25.Ne1 Nxe4! 26.Ng2 Rf5 27.fxe4 f3 28.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 29.Rxf3 Qxh1+ 30.Kxh1 Rxf3 31.Kg1 Rb3 32.Nxc7 Rf8 33.Be1 Bf6 34.Nb5 Be7 35.Ra3 Rxa3 36.Nxa3 Rf3 37.Nc2 Bg5 38.Bb4 h5 39.Nce1 Rf6 40.a5 bxa5 41.Bxa5 Rf2 42.Bc7 Be7 43.Ne3 Re2 44.N1g2 Ra2 45.c5 Ra1+ 46.Nf1 h4 47.Nxh4 Bxh4 48.Bxd6 Re1 49.c6 Rxe4 50.c7 Rc4 51.Bxe5 Kf7 52.Nxg3 Bxg3 ½-½

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Re: King's Indian books
Reply #6 - 11/16/05 at 07:37:59
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The problem with KID books is that Theory changes too fast : I have the 2 volumes of Nunn & Burgess , but I must see they are becoming obsolete
An example :
In Taimanov variation , after
9 Ne1 Nd7
10 Be3 f5
11 f3 f4
12 Bf2 g5
13 a4 Ng6
14 a5 Kh8
N&B consider only 15 Nd3 , and forget completely 15 Nb5
that looks as a refutation of 14..Kh8 , after 15...Nf6
16 Nxa7
In my databases I find 16...g4!( ! is from the database)
17 Nxc8  but there is only a line , without any game as example :
What does Gallagher say about this line?
I analysed this line but I find Black compensation as insufficient ,and I can't understand the ! of my database
In my mind 14..Kh8 is definitely refuted
What do you think about it?
  
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Reply #5 - 10/31/05 at 19:30:11
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Gallaghers Play The Kings Indian is another one you may want to check out!
  
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Reply #4 - 10/25/05 at 23:58:42
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Watson's book is still great.  The material there is still relevant and the lines are still reliable and strong.  It is for those offbeat or more uncommon White responses to the KID.

Golubev's book is next on my list to purchase.  He is a good as GM Gallagher on the KID, in my opinion.  His last book was solid quality also, so I do not expect that book to be poorly written.

  

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Reply #3 - 10/25/05 at 15:17:46
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There is a book called Kings Indian Battle Plans which i skimmed through one at the book store. It looked like it might be somthing to check out.
  
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Reply #2 - 08/16/05 at 14:41:37
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OK, thanks Alias!
  
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Reply #1 - 08/16/05 at 13:44:35
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Golubev's book hasn't been published yet. I'm looking forward to it though. http://www.badbishop.com/gambit/books/kingsind.html

The books by Keene and Watson are old books reprinted by Harding Simpole, http://www.hardingesimpole.co.uk/biblio/1843821044.htm and http://www.hardingesimpole.co.uk/biblio/1843821508.htm Both were considered good when they were first published. (I haven't read them.) I would imagine at least Keene's book might be a bit dated.
  

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King's Indian books
08/16/05 at 11:51:50
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Hi guys!
I just wanted to know if anyone here has read either of these KID books:
"The Complete King's Indian" - Raymond Keene(2005),
"The Unconventional King's Indian"- John Watson(2005),
"Understanding the King's Indian: An All-round Guide by a Life-long King's Indian Specialist" - Mikhail Golubev(2005)?
If anyone has read any of these books can you please tell me what they are like? Thank you!
  
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