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Re: KIA Karpov System
Reply #9 - 09/06/05 at 01:59:22
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I remember reading something about the QID and why it wasn't terribly popular for a long time.  The conventional wisdom suggested that an early ...e6 and ...b6 allowed White to take over the long diagonal, and often get tactical shots such as Nf3-xe5, Nc6xe5 Bg2xRa8, winning.

That similarity, however superficial, to playing ...e6 and ..b6 in the KIA has kept me from even being slightly interested in those positions for Black.  And since I don't like the KIA as White...

I have another reason for not liking ...b6.  I often try the old way of playing, with e6, d5 c5 pawn structure, and eventually a b7-b5 q-side attack is nice.  If I have to play b5 in two moves, I won't be as happy.  It's hard enough to get that sort of attack rolling in the first place! Tongue

In other words, It's just a matter of taste, and I think it's icky to play ...b6.  I know, such hard core analysis for free!  You can thank me later.

(BTW Castlerock, I haven't forgotten that I actually owe you some analysis, but I need the games first!)
  
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Re: KIA Karpov System
Reply #8 - 09/06/05 at 00:40:52
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Personally, I'd never play that way as Black (e6 and b6 against an e4 opening) because it looks too much like a one-trick pony.


I don't quite get what you mean. I always thought playing e6 and b6 is one of the best ways to counter KIA against French.A06-A08. Karpov's preferred way Cheesy
  

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Re: KIA Karpov System
Reply #7 - 09/05/05 at 22:49:37
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Cute shot, Castlerock! Grin

Personally, I'd never play that way as Black (e6 and b6 against an e4 opening) because it looks too much like a one-trick pony.  But it obviously worked here!
  
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Re: KIA Karpov System
Reply #6 - 09/05/05 at 08:11:51
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While we are at it, here is the reason why e5 can be delayed by black.

1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.Ngf3 b6 5.g3 dxe4 6.dxe4 Bb7 7.Qe2 Nc6 8.c3 a5 9.e5 Ng4 10.Bh3 Ngxe5 11.Nxe5 Nxe5 12.Qxe5 Bxh1 0-1


  

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Re: KIA Karpov System
Reply #5 - 09/05/05 at 03:04:22
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I know that John Watson recommended an early ...e5 in one of his Play the French volumes.  Maybe you saw it there?
  
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Re: KIA Karpov System
Reply #4 - 09/04/05 at 08:37:14
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Thanks but I have the game, it's the article/book chapter that I am looking for.  It's driving me nuts, because I know I've got it here somewhere.
  
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Re: KIA Karpov System
Reply #3 - 09/04/05 at 08:10:11
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I used to teach somewhat similar lines from black side in French move order.

The line goes 1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.Ngf3 b6 5.g3 dxe4 6.dxe4 Bc5. Developing the Bishop will invite Ba6 and after 8.c4, 8...Qd3 is a distinct possibility. Hence Qe2 was needed. In some lines black plays Be7 and c5 in varying orders. 

Immediate ...e5 is not needed. But it needs to be timed, though. I'm not sure I have my old notes but could check. I don't know if it is Karpov System, but yes there's an outstanding game by Karpov. A-08 0-1. I think I can trace the game if you can't find it.


  

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Reply #2 - 09/04/05 at 04:41:03
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How many times has such a joke been cracked?   Cry 

Now I know what Senior Member means!


But seriously though folks?!
  
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Re: KIA Karpov System
Reply #1 - 09/04/05 at 00:24:09
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There's a Karpov System in the KIA?

Is it some sort of anti-theft device????  Grin
  
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C00: KIA Karpov System
09/03/05 at 12:46:26
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I have recently been revising my 5-year-old notes on the KIA, and I have come to the variation 1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3 d3 Nc6 4.g3 d5 5.Qe2, which used to be considered the strongest line, and still scores very well.  I appreciate that as shown above this is a Sicilian, but the Karpov System generally appears in KIA books as against the French, although against the French move order, Black does not need to concede a hole on d5. 
When I originally compiled my notes, the recommended line for Black was 5...dxe4 6.dxe4 e5, a line I remember well, as it seemed verging on anti-positional, and I remember a number of discussions with strong players who also had misgivings.  I cannot locate the source of this recommended line [Ken Smith? rings bells], so please can someone point me in the right direction (even if I am about to throw it away for ever, as on my Db it scores only 32% )
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