Quote:The very baroque move order suggested by Charles G allows Black to play 2...c5 with a fully acceptable game.
He could also play 3...de4 4.Ne4 Nf6 with fine play. or even 3....d4! The cost of avoiding the Winawer is just too high.
If I was black in this line I wouldn't lose any sleep over dxc5 either. But transpositionwise, I don't agree with S_F; 2.Nc3 c5 3.Nf3 is either a normal sicilian or one of the anti sveshnikov lines where white scores quite OK. And 3...de4 4.Nxe4 Nf6 5.Nxf6+ gxf6 6.d4 can be reached through the Rubinstein as well.
3...d4 is not bad, but hardly a '!', for one thing in practical play white will be delighted to have gotten the opponent off his 'french track', e.g the following rapid game:
Klinova,M ( 2391 ) - Korchnoi,V ( 2619 ) [C00]
Pivdenny Bank Geller Mem Odessa UKR ( 9 ), 03.07.2005
1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.Nc3 d4 4.Ne2 c5 5.Ng3 a6 6.Be2 Nc6 7.0-0 Nf6 8.d3 e5 9.h3 g6 10.Nh2 Bg7 11.Ng4 Ng8 12.f4 exf4 13.Bxf4 h5 14.Nh2 h4 15.Nh1 g5 16.Bd2 Ne5 17.Nf2 f6 18.Nfg4 Ng6 19.Nf2 N8e7 20.Bg4 Bxg4 21.Nfxg4 Qb6 22.a3 0-0-0 23.b4 c4 24.dxc4 Qe6 25.c5 Qxe4 26.Nxf6 Bxf6 27.Rxf6 Nd5 28.Rd6 Ngf4 29.Qg4+ Kc7 30.Bxf4 Nxf4 31.Nf3 Ne2+ 32.Kh2 Qxg4 33.hxg4 Rxd6 34.cxd6+ Kxd6 35.Re1 Nc3 36.Nxd4 Kd5 37.Nf3 Rc8 38.Re5+ Kd6 39.Rxg5 Ne4 40.Rg7 b5 41.Nxh4 Rxc2 42.Rg6+ Kd5 43.Rxa6 Ra2 44.Nf3 Kc4 45.g5 Re2 46.Re6 1-0
1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.Nc3 d4 4.Ne2 c5 5.c3 Nc6 6.cxd4 cxd4 7.Qa4 Bc5 8.b4 is one of white's points.
But black has also ideas:
Guseinov,K ( 2505 ) - Mamedyarov,S ( 2605 ) [C00]
WJun, Nakhchivan AZE ( 8 ), 2003
1.e4 e6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Nf3 d4 4.Ne2 c5 5.c3 Nc6 6.cxd4 Nf6! 7.e5 Nd7 8.dxc5 Ndxe5 9.Nxe5 Nxe5 10.d4 Bxc5!
which might be the reason Klinova played 5.Ng3, making the old geezer think for himself.

If white is willing to play this line, s/he could expect to get to dxc5 it in about 75% of the games after 1.e4 e6 - so why would white want to learn the Winawer too???