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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #103 - 05/28/06 at 19:58:58
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SniperOnG7, To your other question you answered yourself: "Obviously the loss of tempo is the reason" Yes, indeed. One tempo is a sound reason to change plans in such a sharp system as The English attack. In your example White's king is still on c1. On that square the king is vulnerable to different tactical hits, especially after a pawn storm by the b and a pawns. Another reason not to play Bb6 is because the bishop is already activated on d4 and it is pointless to move it again.
  
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Reply #102 - 05/28/06 at 19:40:08
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After 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nc3 Qc7 6.g3 a6 7.Bg2 d6 8.0-0 Bd7 9.Re1 Be7 10.Nb3 b5 11.a3 Nf6 12.f4 both moves Rc8 and Rd8 are playable. The difference between them is in the way Black meets g4.
1. In the case of 12...Rd8 13.Be3 0-0 14.g4 Black can play 14...Bc8 freeing d7 for the knight.
2. After 12...Rc8 13.Be3 0-0 is dubious because after 14.g4 the knight has no good retreat square. So in the second case Black should try to build a blockade on the dark squares starting with 13...h6 14.g4 Nh7 (14...h5 15.h3 hxg4 16.hxg4 g5 17.e5+=) Then White could persist with his plan with 15.Bf2 aiming for h4 and g5.
Perhaps the word "renews" the threat g4 is not precise. My idea was to say that White is threatening g4. Since the same idea was discussed on the previous move (but it was not good with the bishop still on c1), I used "renews". Sorry if I was unclear.

  
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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #101 - 05/27/06 at 05:27:42
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I have another comparison question...
Why is it in line D 9.Re1 (starts from pg147) after 13...Rd8, 14.g4 is not good for white while after 14.Be3, the g4 threat is "renewed" again?

Help with my two questions will be much appreciated!
  
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Reply #100 - 05/26/06 at 19:21:28
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Interestingly, a certain IM (about 2400 fide) played 13.Be2!? against me in a rapid game on ICC a few weeks ago. He played it immediately, as if he prepared the move. I replied with what I believe is the best continuation (as was suggested by Semkov above). the game went:

[Event "ICC 10 30"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2006.5.7"]
[Round ""]
[White "International Master"]
[Black "Ptero"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Eco "B44"]
[Annotator ""]
[Source ""]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nb5 d6 6.Bf4 e5 7.Be3
a6 8.N5c3 Nf6 9.Bc4 Be6 10.Nd5 Nxe4 11.Bb6 Qg5 12.Nc7+ Kd7 13.Be2
Rc8 14.Nxe6 fxe6 15.O-O Nd4 16.Bxd4 exd4 17.Qxd4 d5 18.Nc3 Rxc3
19.bxc3 Bc5 20.Qa4+ Ke7 21.Bf3 Nd2 22.Qg4 Qxg4 23.Bxg4 Nxf1 24.Kxf1
Rf8 25.f3 Kd6 26.g3 h5 27.Bxh5 Rh8 28.g4 g6 29.Bxg6 Rxh2 30.Rd1
Rf2+ 31.Ke1 Rxf3 32.c4 Rg3 33.cxd5 Rg1+ 34.Ke2 Rxd1 35.Kxd1 {Game drawn by mutual agreement}
1/2-1/2

17.Bf3 is probably better than the move played, while 20...Kd6!? may have given black some edge. In any case I am rather convinced that black should be doing well against 13.Be2

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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #99 - 05/26/06 at 17:22:29
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Ptero,

Actually, Black is not looking for an evasive draw at all.  Black plays

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nb5 d6 6. Bf4 e5 7. Be3 a6 8. N5c3 Nf6 9. Bc4 Be6 10. Nd5 Nxe4 11. Bb6 Qg5 12.Nc7+ Kd7 13. Be2 Nd4 14. O-O Bh3 15. Bf3 Nxf3+ 16. Qxf3 Qxg2+ 17. Qxg2 Bxg2 18.
Kxg2 Rc8 19. Nd5

19...   Rxc2

And he has 3 pawns for the Knight and his pawns are very mobile ones.  I think Black is in the race as much as White is--  

here is a line and not necessarily best or only play from both sides--

20. Nbc3 Nf6 21. Rab1 Nxd5 22. Nxd5 Be7 23. Ne3 Rc6
24.Ba5 Bg5 25. Bc3 Ke6 26. Rfe1 Bxe3 27. Rxe3 g5 28. Rd1 f5 29. Rh3 h5

Those pawns are very mobile, united, and make their presence felt in White's face.

And Black also looks good in

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5.
Nb5 d6 6. Bf4 e5 7. Be3 a6 8. N5c3 Nf6 9. Bc4 Be6 10. Nd5 Nxe4 11. Bb6 Qg5 12.
Nc7+ Kd7 13. Be2

13... Rc8 14. Nxe6 fxe6 15. O-O Be7 16. c3 Qh6 17. Bd3 Nf6
  

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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #98 - 05/26/06 at 05:22:42
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YEAH! I finally got the book! The format was revolutionary and congrats to Mr. Semkov and Mr. Delchev.
Right now I am studying the English Attack section and I've got a question...

The 11. Bd4 line contines with 11...Be7
12 Qf2 d6

While in 11.Kh1, the authors warn not to play 11...Be7 due to
12 Qf2 d6
13 Bb6!

My question is, if Bb6 is such a strong move, why isn't it discussed in the former line? Obviously the loss of tempo is the reason...but why? Black will still have to reply with 13...Qb8 doesn't he?
  
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Reply #97 - 04/03/06 at 16:39:11
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Ptero, I assessed the position after 15...Be7 like promising for Black without calculating a lot of variations. In fact I considered only 16.c3 Qh6 17.Bd3 Nf6 that you do not mention. Perhaps you should check it too. But finally we cannot (and should not) find everything at home. Sometimes it is fun to experiment OTB. You only have to pick a line to your taste and play it. Computer's evaluation is not too important in terms of practical results. Delchev, for instance, gladly plays all kinds of Sicilian endgames and keeps winning a lot of them although chips say that Black is very bad. If you feel happy in some line and it yields points, switch off the engine and do not pay attention to it.
  
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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #96 - 04/03/06 at 12:22:21
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To Mr. Semkov and BladezII, thanks for your thoughtful responses.

To Mr. Semkov:
First, let me congratulate you and Mr. Delchev for this book, which I think is excellent both in concept and in content. Great work!
Second, about the specific variation I was discussing:
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nb5 d6 6.Bf4 e5 7.Be3 a6 8.N5c3 Nf6 9.Bc4 Be6 10.Nd5 Nxe4 11.Bb6 Qg5 12.Nc7+ Kd7 13.Be2
And now, after:
13…Rc8 14.Nxe6 fxe6 15.O-O Be7 Black’s position indeed looks great at first sight, but White plays 16.c3! intending Qb3 eyeing both b7 and e6. Black’s game seems rather unpleasant, for example: 16…Rcf8 (clearing c8 for the K) 17.Be3 Qf6 (17…Qg6 or 17…Qf5 fails to 18.Bd3, while after 17…Qh4 just 18.Qb3 +/-) 18.Bd3 Ng5
19.Qb3 Kc8 20.Bxg5 Qxg5 21.Qxe6+ Kb8 22.Na3 and White seems to have a lasting edge with good attacking chances on the Q-side.
But I do like the second suggestion (15…Nd4!), not the first move that jumped to my mind, but indeed this seems fine for Black after 16.Bxd4 cxd4 17.Bf3 Qf4 18.Qxd4 d5. Thanks!

To BladezII:
Your suggestion is very interesting but strikes me as slightly optimistic, as you suggest to sacrifice active pieces and remain a piece down for a few pawns after:
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nb5 d6 6.Bf4 e5 7.Be3
a6 8.N5c3 Nf6 9.Bc4 Be6 10.Nd5 Nxe4 11.Bb6 Qg5 12.Nc7+ Kd7 13.Be2
Nd4 14.O-O Bh3 15.Bf3 Nxf3+ 16.Qxf3 Qxg2+ 17.Qxg2 Bxg2 18.Kxg2
Rc8 19.Nd5 Nf6 20.Nbc3! (not 20.Ne3?! d5!) Nxd5 21.Nxd5 Rxc2 22.Rfd1! Rxb2 23.a4  I’m afraid that Black has to grovel for a lucky draw here as white is alarmingly active.
But the try is certainly interesting and I’ll give it another look. Thanks!

Niv 

     
  
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Reply #95 - 04/03/06 at 11:04:48
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Hello,

    Don't worry about it Slates, people like Bladez like to assume other people are thick. Unfortunately can meet them in just about any chess club.
    Bye John S
  
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Reply #94 - 04/02/06 at 17:58:52
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Bladez,

I read both the quick repertoire and the annotations to the game, and agreed with what was said.  I don't know what any of that has to do with White missing the win at the end.  This was a curiosity, really - and nothing whatsoever to do with the opening play or any comments given in the book - it's just that White could have played 55.Qe7+ and won, something that is not relevant to the repertoire or opening, but strange nonetheless. I thought it was a typo until I checked the result elsewhere.  It seems time was likely to blame, but there was certainly no interpretation of mine of any sort that associated the result with anything the authors were trying to say.
  
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Reply #93 - 04/02/06 at 10:10:26
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There were 2 concrete opening questions. I'll try to answer them although what we had to say, we have said it. Now it is your turn to play or refute it. Finally only practical experience counts.
1. 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Qc7 5.Nc3 e6 6.Be2 Nf6 7.f4 looks to me overoptimistic due to 7...Nd4 8.Qd4 Bc5 9.Qd3 and now d5!? intending 10.e5 Ne4.

2.  1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6  5.Nb5 d6 6. Bf4 e5 7. Be3 a6 8. N5c3 Nf6 
9. Bc4 Be6 10. Nd5 Nxe4 11. Bb6 Qg5 12.Nc7+ Kd7 13. Be2 - Rc8 14.Ne6 fe6 15.0-0. I do not believe that White dreamed about being a pawn down when he jumped to d5. For instance many of you (and I) would prefer Black after 15...Be7. With such a massive pawn centre he hardly risks much.
Alternatively 15...Nd4 16.Bd4 ed4 17.Bf3 Qf4 18.Qd4 (18.c4 Ng5-/+; 18.Re1 Ng5-/+) d5 19.Rd1 Bd6 20.Be4 Qh2 looks like a perpetual, while 19.Be4 Rc4 20.Qa7 Kc6 is unclear to me.
  
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Reply #92 - 04/02/06 at 05:00:49
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slates wrote on 03/29/06 at 09:43:20:
One quick question regarding the game Daly- Tregubov, Cappelle la Grande 2000, which is given on page 38 of the book - why does Black win this game (after 54...Bxe6)? After 55.Qe7+ White has a winning position, doesn't he?  Am I missing something very obvious here, or did he run out of time, or....?

Thanks.


Slates,

I think you did not read or did not stop to ponder what was written in the book in the Quick repertoire and to the annotations in the complete games section.  Look at what the book says --

"It is supposed that Black has a universal set-up against this version of the Hedgehog.  In many games the second players half-automatically line up their forces by the following scheme, regardless of the opponent's action:.... "

Later he says:

"...Forget about this plan !"  And he gives and references the game by Daly vs Tregubov to support his point and to warn Black of what could happen.

Read pages 16 and 17 and you will see what I mean.  I hope this clarifies the misconception or the wrong interpretation you had about the contents of the book for that specific game.

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Reply #91 - 04/01/06 at 20:36:41
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Here is one suggestion, it is certainly an active approach--

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6
5.Nb5 d6 6. Bf4 e5 7. Be3 a6 8. N5c3 Nf6
9. Bc4 Be6 10. Nd5 Nxe4 11. Bb6 Qg5 12.Nc7+ Kd7
13. Be2

This is your concern here,right ?  So my input is the following---computers do not prefer the following move for Black as their first choice--

13...  Nd4!

14. O-O Bh3 --  counterplay !

15. Bf3 Nxf3+ 16. Qxf3 Bxg2 17. Qxg2 Qxg2+
18.Kxg2 Rc8 19. Nd5 Nf6 20. Ne3 Rc6 21. Ba5 d5
22. Nd2 Bc5 23. c4 d4 24. Nf5 Nh5
25. Nb3 Ke6 

Black's activity and his two pawns, and maybe later three, seem to give him at least sufficient chances.

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Reply #90 - 04/01/06 at 09:53:00
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In the line 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nc6 5.Nb5 d6 6.Bf4 e5 7.Be3
a6 8.N5c3 Nf6 9.Bc4 Be6 10.Nd5 Delchev and Semkov give Nxe4 11.Bb6 Qg5 12.Nc7+ Kd7 13.Bxe6+ fxe6 14.Nxa8 Qxg2 with very good play for Black, but Fritz 9 suggests 13.Be2!? so after 13…Rc8 (13…Qxg2? 14.Bf3) 14.Nxe6 fxe6 15.0-0 Black is a pawn up, but his king is misplaced and he has trouble getting his pieces into play. Any thoughts on how black should proceed in that case?

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Re: The Delchev/Semkov book
Reply #89 - 04/01/06 at 06:56:17
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GM Delchev and IM Semkov recommend BLack uses and stays on the Taimanov.  Everytime GM Delchev thinks that BLack can transpose to a variation of the Scheveningen which at least as good for Black as the Taimanov proper, only then does he recommend Black do so.

Nevertheless, Black can choose to stay in Taimanov territory as long as White is willing to play as well.  I mean, as long as White is not playing some anti Sicilian or some irregular stuff.

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