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Re: Ruy Lopez, Modern Steinitz Defence
Reply #3 - 01/27/06 at 23:50:49
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RotGut wrote on 01/27/06 at 23:15:23:
How does the fianchetto variation of the Modern Steinitz hold up in play? Any written works covering this topic? Huh


There's a section of an old (1977 or so) book, How to Open a Chess Game, in which (Hungarian GM) Lajos Portisch advocated the Neo-Steinitz for Black.  I'm pretty sure he recommended the fianchetto line, and against 5. Bxc6+ bc 6. d4 he recommended 6...ed instead of ...f6.  As for how it holds up, all I can say is that books such as ECO and Nunn think that with best play it should be "plus over equals." 
  
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Re: Ruy Lopez, Modern Steinitz Defence
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How does the fianchetto variation of the Modern Steinitz hold up in play? Any written works covering this topic? Huh
  
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Re: Ruy Lopez, Modern Steinitz Defence
Reply #1 - 01/27/06 at 20:04:56
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Well, there's an article in the latest NIC yearbook about the lines with 6...Nge7, where White castles and plays d5.  It's written by Tibor Karolyi; his overall view is "slightly better for White."  He says that in part 2 he will cover "the main line" 8. Re1 Be7 9. Nbd2, in which he thinks White is slightly better, but Black is close to equalising.
  
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Ruy Lopez, Modern Steinitz Defence
01/24/06 at 12:16:51
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Great to have the Forum back! A Happy New Year to all!

I've been getting very interested, over Christmas and the New Year, in various Spanish lines, esp. the Modern Steinitz (chiefly 3 ...a6 4 Ba4 d6 5 0-0/c3 Bd7). Is anyone here interested/experienced in this stuff and can anyone recommend some literature on it (other than the useful stuff on ChessPub)?

I'm assuming that, if Black wants to play the ...Bd7 rather than ...Bg4 lines after 5 0-0, the soundest is 5 0-0 Bd7 6 c3 Nf6 7 d4 g6 8 Re1 b5 9 Bb3 Bg7, as recommended on ChessPub, but there are some fascinating transpositional possibilities here, and looking at them raises a number of concrete questions:

(1) What is the status of the Rubinstein Variation, 5 c3 Bd7 6 d4 Nge7? Here White can play 7 Be3!? Ng6 8 h4!? Be7 9 g3. Black has done OK with 9 ...h6 or ...b5, but is he really OK? Also, in the main line with 7 0-0 Ng6 8 d5! Nb8 9 c4 Be7 10 Nc3 0-0 11 Bd7 Nd7 12 Qc2 (van der Wiel--Short), is Black doing OK or not after say 12 ...Nh4 (12 ...Nf4!?, 12 ...Nf6!?, 12 ...c5!?) 13 Nh4 Bh4 14 b4 a5!? ? -- and also (critically?), what about delaying castling with ...h6!? on move 9 or 10, as played by Timman?

(2) After 5 c3 Bd7 6 d4 g6 7 0-0 Bg7 (the Bronstein Variation) 8 Re1, 8 ...b5 9 Bb3 Nf6 transposes into approved C79 lines. But what is the status of Spassky's 8 ...Nge7 9 d5 Nb8 10 Bd7 Nd7? This is normally given as a bit better for White after 11 Be3 on the basis of the game Polgar--Spassky, but is this (still) thought true? -- Black might have improvements?

(3) What's the status of the wild line 5 0-0 Nf6 6 c3 Be7 7 Re1 (7 d4 b5 8 Bb3 Bg4 is C84) Bg4!? (7 ...b5?! 8 Bc2!) 8 h3 Bh5 9 Bc6 bc 10 d4 Nd7!? (11 Qa4 h5!?)? -- estimable or just a hack? If the latter, Black could play 7 ...0-0 of course, but after 8 d4! (8 h3 Nd7!?) b5 (8 ...Bd7 9 Nbd2 Re8 is Portisch's old line, but isn't 10 Nf1 a bit better for White?; is 8 ...Nd7!? a try?) 9 Bc2!? may be good for White (9 Bb3 Bg4 is just C91), or am I getting confused? Tricky, these Lopez transpositions!

(4) Finally and just for fun, what about 5 0-0 Nf6 6 c3 Bg4!? ?

  
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