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Re: Silman & Donaldson or Hansen & Nielsen ?
Reply #10 - 01/17/07 at 18:36:57
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I used to play the Accelerated for Black but if you are playing good players the Maroczy is almost impossible to win with Black. I have scored 14/15 with White here too. Modern chess values space. I still think the Accelerated Dragon can be useful to have in one's repetoire for a couple of reasons. You can aswer 1.c4 with 1...c5 if you are willing to play the Maroczy. Also, no matter what Sicilian you play, if White plays 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 you can respond 2...Nc6. This allows Black to play the best lines of the closed Sicilain. If White plays 3.Nf3/3.Ne2, you can play 3...g6. Then if White plays 4.d4, you have an Accelerated Dragon, wihout worrying about the Maroczy.
  
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Re: Silman & Donaldson or Hansen & Nielsen ?
Reply #9 - 01/17/07 at 14:40:00
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Bah, I stopped playing the Accelerated Dragon in favor of the Najdorf due to asphyxiation from Maroczy.
  
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Reply #8 - 01/17/07 at 11:12:50
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IMJohnCox wrote on 01/16/07 at 17:39:24:
Now I'm sorry, but calling the Accelerated Dragon Dynamic is taking the michael. It's the least dynamic of all the Sicilian variations - not that there's anything wrong with that.

I see your point, but actually the Accelerated can be very dynamic. There are many variations in the 5.Nc3 lines where Black strives for ...d5 even at the risk of giving up a pawn. And in the Maroczy lines, Black almost has to play dynamically or suffer slow strangulation (I should know, I've lost this way many times).
  
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Re: Silman & Donaldson or Hansen & Nielsen ?
Reply #7 - 01/16/07 at 20:33:12
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I suppose you are not thinking of 5.c4 Bg7 6.Be3 Nf6 7.Nc3 Ng4 8.Qxg4 Nxd4 9.Qd1 e5 ? More than ten years ago I was very interested in this, as it can lead to exciting play.
  
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Now I'm sorry, but calling the Accelerated Dragon Dynamic is taking the michael. It's the least dynamic of all the Sicilian variations - not that there's anything wrong with that.
  
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Reply #5 - 01/16/07 at 15:29:07
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Silman & Donaldson, Hansen & Nielsen or GREET?
From Amazon.co.uk:  
The Accelerated Dragon: Fundamental Coverage of a Dynamic Sicilian (Starting Out) by Andrew Greet (Paperback - 15 Sep 2007) 
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Reply #4 - 04/19/06 at 15:49:04
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Does anyone know when the next edition of Hansen/Nielsen is due out? I can't find any info on the Batsford website, amazon.co.uk seems to carry it but quotes a lead time of 4-6 weeks - which means they don't know when and if available  Wink
  
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Re: Silman & Donaldson or Hansen & Nielsen ?
Reply #3 - 03/01/06 at 22:21:51
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Silman Donaldson is very good for getting lots of lines, some of the more testing stuff has to be tried with caution but it is a good book if you are going for lots of coverage/variations

Nielsen's book is very good because of the model games and the amount of description. 

Chessbase has a cd that is pretty decent as well.

If this is your first pass at the accelerated then go with Nielsen-Hansen it will give you a better grounding.
  
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Reply #2 - 02/07/06 at 21:44:52
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The new edition of Hansen/Nielsen's book will not be published for some time (no date announced) due to the fact that it has not been finished yet. Hopefully it will be finished soon.
  
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Reply #1 - 02/03/06 at 10:58:16
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Buy 'em both!  Grin
They are both good books, each in its own way. If you want 'pure theory', then Silman/Donaldson is the choice. If you want some discussion of plans and a lot of illustrative games, then go for Denmark.
In fact Hansen/Nielsen is of the now familiar 'complete games'-type of book; S/D is the 'old' style, which some people call the 'telephone book' style. My impression is that H/N is very instructive, while S/D are more reliable on analytical grounds. I recall that one of H/N's notes in the Gurgenidze, given as the way to go for Black, just loses a knight...   Embarrassed
By the way, there are two good repertoire books, based on the Accelerated dragon.
"Winning with the Sicilian Defense" (1998) by Silman is an extract of S/D, but also covers the Anti-Sicilians.
The new book by Alburt/Dzindzi/Perelsteyn(?!), "Chess openings for Black - explained" is also quite nice; but it covers a complete repertoire for Black: Sicilian AD, Nimzo-Indian, Bogo-Indian, Symmetrical English. It' very readable, but to me it seems a bit superficial in certain lines.
However, if you want an overview of the whole Accelerated/Hyperaccelerated Dragon, then it's either Silman/Donaldson or Hansen/Nielsen.
I also like Levy's book from the 70ies, but it's of course totally outdated.
  
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Silman & Donaldson or Hansen & Nielsen ?
02/03/06 at 05:36:25
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Should I buy Silman & Donaldson : Accelerated Dragons or Hansen & Nielsen : Sicilian Accelerated Dragon?
  
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