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Re: PGN attachments
Reply #45 - 03/04/14 at 22:55:23
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erasmus_b_dragon wrote on 03/01/14 at 15:51:57:
No, it's only 2K. Maybe it doesn't like some of the data in the file.


Can you send the file to support@chesspublishing.com and we will have a look at it.
  
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Reply #44 - 03/01/14 at 15:51:57
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 03/01/14 at 10:52:29:
I have only seen this particular error when the PGN file was too big. Try dividing it into several files smaller than 50kb if this is, indeed, the case.


No, it's only 2K. Maybe it doesn't like some of the data in the file. I noticed that when I insert the text via the bracket-pgn-bracket TEXT etc. sometimes I have to delete everything except the moves, although the entire file works with other programs.
  

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Reply #43 - 03/01/14 at 10:52:29
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I have only seen this particular error when the PGN file was too big. Try dividing it into several files smaller than 50kb if this is, indeed, the case.
  
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Downloading of the pgn file in the attachment sect
Reply #42 - 02/28/14 at 20:54:15
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Kam wrote on 11/26/09 at 07:34:33:
4c) Downloading of the pgn file in the attachment section.



When I try to attach a pgn it says

"NOTE: If you had an Attachment in your post, you will need to reselect the Attachment again in the Browser Box for security reasons."

And then I re-select and get the same error.

Can't get this to work at all.
  

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Reply #41 - 07/15/12 at 21:00:24
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Reply #40 - 07/15/12 at 20:54:01
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Tony - you could contact your server company and ask what happened. Or, if you want I'll resume hosting the file on my server.

Point the link to http://www.jesseo.com/pgn.php and email me pgn.php.
  
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Reply #39 - 07/15/12 at 20:31:08
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TalJechin wrote on 07/15/12 at 11:07:52:
Maybe someone could alert Jesse Gersenson? I think he was the one who generously donated some of his time to implement the chessflash thingy here.

Yes, you're right, I'll send him an email.
  
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Reply #38 - 07/15/12 at 13:51:30
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Thanks to everyone for playing around with this!  The quote trick is nice, although it does require me to be signed in (I do most of my browsing without signing in).  Even better, the file attachment method solves the problem completely as far as I'm concerned:  When I click on the resulting link the pgn is opened in my analysis program.

Sorry if I got folks concerned about the pgn game files from the subscription area.  Hmm... look like my subscription expired, and I need to renew.  So there was some benefit to  Tony in all this Wink

  
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Re: PGN attachments
Reply #37 - 07/15/12 at 11:48:36
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AlanG wrote on 07/15/12 at 10:56:53:
Charles Allen wrote on 07/14/12 at 23:42:45:
The best I can do is to "copy link location", paste into a file, and then decode the result.  This is doable, but painful (all spaces have been encoded as "%20", etc.).

I have the same problem as you. However there is a better temporary work-around - press the "Quote" button. Then you see the original pgn text without the %20 etc.


Thanks, nice tip  Cool
  

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Reply #36 - 07/15/12 at 11:07:52
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Aha, you're talking about the chessflash user generated pgn-files "Download game in pgn format - beta version" - that one doesn't work for me either.

Maybe someone could alert Jesse Gersenson? I think he was the one who generously donated some of his time to implement the chessflash thingy here.


Somehow, I was under the impression that this was about the subscription pgns - until just now when the coin finally fell in...  Roll Eyes
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Reply #35 - 07/15/12 at 10:56:53
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Charles Allen wrote on 07/14/12 at 23:42:45:
The best I can do is to "copy link location", paste into a file, and then decode the result.  This is doable, but painful (all spaces have been encoded as "%20", etc.).

I have the same problem as you. However there is a better temporary work-around - press the "Quote" button. Then you see the original pgn text without the %20 etc.
  
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Reply #34 - 07/15/12 at 10:17:45
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This is my specific problem. I have added the same pgn file in two ways, as a file attachment, and embedding it within pgn markers.

I can download the pgn file attachment at the bottom of my post OK. So the thread title is possibly misleading.

What I can't do is download the pgn from the embedded version of the game with "Download game in pgn format - beta version", and I get the same error message as posted by Charles, "Service Unavailable
Server currently undergoing maintenance. Webmaster: please contact support.
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I can play through the embedded game OK.



  

Austin-YoungJEH.pgn ( 0 KB | Downloads )

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Reply #33 - 07/14/12 at 23:42:45
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TalJechin wrote on 07/14/12 at 22:58:05:
Why can't you just download the pgn file and then open it with your text program? (i.e. right click file, open with)


There is no pgn file to download (this is my gripe).  The pgn data is encoded in the link itself.

If I "save link as" I get a pgn.php file with the html form of the previous server error message I showed.

The best I can do is to "copy link location", paste into a file, and then decode the result.  This is doable, but painful (all spaces have been encoded as "%20", etc.).

It just seems bizarre that a file format specifically designed to be easy to transfer has been transmogrified by the chessflash stuff to the point that its useless as a pgn file.
  
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Re: PGN attachments
Reply #32 - 07/14/12 at 22:58:05
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Charles Allen wrote on 07/14/12 at 20:13:02:
GMTonyKosten wrote on 07/13/12 at 22:42:42:
I have no trouble downloading the PGN files at all, does anyone else have this problem?


Are you "downloading" the files, or are you opening them in the flash viewer?  Turn off flash, try again, and tell us what happens.

I wish to view the pgn using my own analysis program.  I will not use the flash viewer.

No, it is not a cache problem.  Before posting, I tried 3 different browsers (FireFox, Chromium, and lynx).

The data should be presented as "application/x-chess-pgn" somehow.  A SEPARATE link to the flashified stuff can also be presented.  At one point during the process over the past year or so, there was a separate pgn link (I think).


Why can't you just download the pgn file and then open it with your text program? (i.e. right click file, open with)
  
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Reply #31 - 07/14/12 at 20:39:36
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Charles Allen wrote on 07/09/12 at 15:38:06:
I am unable to get to see or get to the contents of any pgn attachments.  I get a

"Service Unavailable
Server currently undergoing maintenance. Webmaster: please contact support."

error regardless of whether I'm logged in, have javascript, flash, cookies, etc. enabled or not.  I just want to see the pgn as text to import into my own analysis program.  If the file is a presented as a ".pgn" file, it would automatically open my analysis program.

Previously the pgn was malformed, but at least salvageable.

Why is presenting a TEXT chess file format as TEXT so hard to do?!

[Addendum:  The appropriate MIME type is "application/x-chess-pgn".]


I get the same problem when trying to download the pgn from an embedded game. OK if it's an ordinary PGN attachment.
  

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Reply #30 - 07/14/12 at 20:13:02
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 07/13/12 at 22:42:42:
I have no trouble downloading the PGN files at all, does anyone else have this problem?


Are you "downloading" the files, or are you opening them in the flash viewer?  Turn off flash, try again, and tell us what happens.

I wish to view the pgn using my own analysis program.  I will not use the flash viewer.

No, it is not a cache problem.  Before posting, I tried 3 different browsers (FireFox, Chromium, and lynx).

The data should be presented as "application/x-chess-pgn" somehow.  A SEPARATE link to the flashified stuff can also be presented.  At one point during the process over the past year or so, there was a separate pgn link (I think).
  
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Reply #29 - 07/14/12 at 03:45:17
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Charles, try clearing your cache, the problem may be on your end.

I sometimes have problems with very large pgn files, but that problem has already been mentioned.
  
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Reply #28 - 07/13/12 at 22:42:42
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I have no trouble downloading the PGN files at all, does anyone else have this problem?
  
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Reply #27 - 07/09/12 at 15:38:06
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I am unable to get to see or get to the contents of any pgn attachments.  I get a

"Service Unavailable
Server currently undergoing maintenance. Webmaster: please contact support."

error regardless of whether I'm logged in, have javascript, flash, cookies, etc. enabled or not.  I just want to see the pgn as text to import into my own analysis program.  If the file is a presented as a ".pgn" file, it would automatically open my analysis program.

Previously the pgn was malformed, but at least salvageable.

Why is presenting a TEXT chess file format as TEXT so hard to do?!

[Addendum:  The appropriate MIME type is "application/x-chess-pgn".]
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Reply #26 - 05/11/12 at 09:48:22
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Caissafan wrote on 05/05/12 at 14:27:28:
Well, a good idea but not with just 50 kB ?! Especially PGN files tend to get pretty big ones.

50kb should be large enough for 10 annotated games, but I can always increase this if there is a need?
  
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 02/09/06 at 00:52:25:
We have decided to allow PGN files to be attached to the messages for a trial period to see how it goes - there is a current limit of 50kb per file. Smiley


Well, a good idea but not with just 50 kB ?! Especially PGN files tend to get pretty big ones.
  

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Reply #24 - 08/13/11 at 13:27:07
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the 'Download game in pgn format - beta version' link was broken - thanks for pointing that out.

Temporary solution, when you click 'Download game...' simply gives the pgn on the screen.

Let me know if this is useful.

btw, there is still a 2,000 character limit which I'm trying to fix.
  
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Reply #23 - 08/10/11 at 14:56:09
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Charles, the link you provide doesn't work.
  
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Reply #22 - 08/10/11 at 14:42:56
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Some more info:  The pgn is actually buried in the last error message, but it is malformed in at least two ways:

1. There is a [Comment "auto-generated from"] at the beginning.  The "Seven Tag Roster" must come first, before any other tags.

2. The Result tag is given as [Result "1"], which is invalid.

The pgn spec is archived in several places. Here's one:

http://www.chessclub.com/help/PGN-spec

(link fixed, I hope)

The pgn-extract command line utilities can be used to normalize pgn files, and are freely available.
  
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Reply #21 - 08/10/11 at 14:28:38
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I don't know when it stopped working, but when I click on the "Download game in pgn format - beta version" links, I now get a page with several errors like this one:

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/jesse.cz/htdocs/www/pgn.php:2) in /var/www/jesse.cz/htdocs/www/pgn.php on line 41

Just to be clear:  The flash reader is useless for me.  I prefer to open pgn attachments using an external viewer.
  
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Reply #20 - 07/13/11 at 06:45:09
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Jupp53 is probably right. A number of characters, the slanted single quote is one, get automatically encoded - perhaps by the browser. For the more common characters I've made rules to replace them with their ascii equivalent.

the slanted single quote appears correctly in the pgn when viewed with Scid (probably works with CB too).
  
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Reply #19 - 06/24/11 at 07:14:01
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Knowing this without using CB-progs there's the hypothesis: It's the German ' - is it different to the same looking English sign in ASCII or ANSI?
  

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Reply #18 - 06/23/11 at 18:16:19
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I've just noticed the following problem: When I copy and paste my notes from chessbase to here, the "'s" dont' scan properly.

Here's an example. Please look at my comments to move 6:

  
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Reply #17 - 04/13/10 at 09:01:47
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The same form me. I only got a blank screen.
  

What kind of proof is that?
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Reply #16 - 04/12/10 at 22:08:20
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[quote author=7A4F42644B4D4647402E0 link=1139446346/15#15 date=1269595128]

Chessflash automatically creates the html-code with the flash viewer when you paste the pgn. No need to install anything.

Here's an example of how it looks, note that it's possible to start with a position too.
[url]http://hem.passagen.se/tjmisha/matejs_slutspel.html[/url][/quote]
Hmm, I don't see anything, although that is probably because I have Flash turned off for security reasons!
I still don't understand how this would work on the Forum. :-[
  
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[quote author=7C5F4B5B4C505A574E5251533E0 link=1139446346/14#14 date=1269581530]I found a java script to manage this : http://pgnview.edicypages.com/

Nevertheless , i think not all forum users can follow a game only through the pgn file , me included .[/quote]

Yes, especially with all these "1.e4 e5 2.e4!" posts, it's indeed difficult to follow a discussion...

Chessflash automatically creates the html-code with the flash viewer when you paste the pgn. No need to install anything.

Here's an example of how it looks, note that it's possible to start with a position too.
[url]http://hem.passagen.se/tjmisha/matejs_slutspel.html[/url]

[code]<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://chessflash.com/releases/latest/ChessFlash.swf" width="100%" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://chessflash.com/releases/latest/ChessFlash.swf" /><param name="flashvars" tbackground=ffffff&puzzle=true&pgndata=[Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "2010.03.21"] [Round "?"] [White "MGs slutspel"] [Black "?"] [Result "*"] [Annotator "Johansson,Thomas"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "8/8/2p1p2k/1p2P1p1/1P1PK1Pb/7P/3B4/8 w - - 0 1"] [PlyCount "41"] [SourceDate "2010.03.22"]  {I partiet spelades} 1. d5 $1 {som snyggt offrar merbonden för att komma åt svarts b-bonde. Tyvärr spelade Matej senare rätt drag i fel ordning vilket gav svarts fria centrumbönder det tempo som behövdes för att vända förlust till vinst. Jag kommer inte ihåg exakt hur partiet gick, men följande variant hade varit en trevlig avslutning!} ({ Som jag misstänkte, finns det även en mer positionell vinst:} 1. Kf3 Kg6 2. Ke2 Bg3 3. Be1 Bf4 4. Kf3 Bc1 5. Ke4 Kh6 (5... Kf7 6. Kd3 Kg6 7. Bd2 Bb2 8. Be3 Ba1 9. Bc1 Kh6 10. h4 $18) 6. d5 cxd5%2B 7. Kd4 Bf4 8. Bc3 Kg7 9. Kc5 Be3%2B 10. Bd4 Bxd4%2B 11. Kxd4 Kf7 12. Kc5 Ke7 13. Kxb5 Kd7 14. Kc5 Kc7 15. b5 Kb7 16. b6 d4 ( 16... Kb8 17. h4 $1 gxh4 18. g5 $18) 17. Kxd4 Kxb6 18. h4 gxh4 19. Ke4 Kc7 20. Kf4 Kd7 21. g5 Ke7 22. Kg4 $18) 1... cxd5%2B 2. Kd4 Bf2%2B 3. Be3 Bg3 4. Kc5 Bxe5 5. Bf2 (5. Kxb5 $2 d4 6. Bd2 Bf4 7. Be1 d3) 5... Kg6 6. Kxb5 Kf6 7. Kc5 Ke7 8. b5 Kd7 9. b6 Kc8 10. Kc6 d4 11. b7%2B Kb8 12. Kb6 Bc7%2B 13. Ka6 Be5 14. Be1 Bd6 15. h4 gxh4 16. Ba5 Bc5 17. g5 h3 18. g6 h2 19. g7 h1=Q 20. g8=R%2B Bf8 21. Rxf8# *  '/></object>[/code]
  
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Reply #14 - 03/26/10 at 05:32:10
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I found a java script to manage this : http://pgnview.edicypages.com/

Nevertheless , i think not all forum users can follow a game only through the pgn file , me included .
  
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Reply #13 - 03/25/10 at 19:44:51
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Lou_Cyber wrote on 03/24/10 at 07:30:11:
Hi Tony,
did you already have a look?


Yes, I had a look, there seems to be a page where you can enter the PGN code, but I don't see how this could be useful to the Forum. Maybe there is a plug-in or something, but I didn't see it.
I'm happy to play through the PGN games in my head, it's good practice! Wink
  
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Reply #12 - 03/24/10 at 07:30:11
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 11/04/09 at 13:58:09:
TalJechin wrote on 10/22/09 at 19:13:15:
Any chance the forum could handle the free flash pgn viewer chessflash.com ?


I'll have a look at this, but presumably we would need to allow Javascript, or some other program to run, which would raise security problems? Undecided



Hi Tony,
did you already have a look? The PGN viewer is used in a german chess forum, and is really helpful, because you can play through some of the lines.

Great for all who don´t have chess engines installed on all their computers, (that´s me and perhaps somebody else).
  

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Reply #11 - 11/26/09 at 07:34:33
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Summary of Getting a PGN File, Loading of Games into the PGN File and Downloading the PGN File into a Forum Site.


A summary of the steps involved is as follows:

1) Getting of the pgn Data Base File:

a) A chess pgn Data Base File can be downloaded into your computer from
    Chess Publishing. (ie download any pgn file)



2) Copying of a game from Fritz program (or any chess engine software) to the pgn
    Data Base File

a) Fritz program   File/Save Game As 

b) File directory of the specified Data Base File is chosen  (“Files of type” must be
     PGN files (*PGN)
c) Open/Save


3) Deleting of irrelevant games which are in the pgn Data Base File.
3a  Opening of the PGN File.
3b) Highlighting of irrelevant game followed by pressing of the “Delete” button.
3c) Closing of the file  by File/Close
3d) “Remove Deleted Games?” / Yes/ enter
3e) The irrelevant games will be deleted.
3f) The title of the pgn data base file can also be changed.


4) Downloading of pgn Data Base File to Forum Site.

4a) Access to Forum and choosing of the specified topic.

4b) Going to the Reply section.

4c) Downloading of the pgn file in the attachment section.

  
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I'll have a look at this, but presumably we would need to allow Javascript, or some other program to run, which would raise security problems? Undecided


I think Flash is a programming language in itself, usually used for playing media or create animations, but maybe js or similar is required, I dunno.

The one to ask is probably the guy behind chessflash, here you can find his email: http://chessflash.com/node/1
  
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TalJechin wrote on 10/22/09 at 19:13:15:
Any chance the forum could handle the free flash pgn viewer chessflash.com ?


I'll have a look at this, but presumably we would need to allow Javascript, or some other program to run, which would raise security problems? Undecided
  
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Any chance the forum could handle the free flash pgn viewer chessflash.com ?

It's already being used by some bloggers out there - basically you just copy and paste the pgn text and make some decisions on how it should be presented. And then it's automatically converted to be displayed on the web.

I tried to test it in the general chess section, but I suppose there's some setting that must be changed for it to work on the forum.

So, Tony, do you think this could be worth testing?
  
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Fernando Semprun wrote on 04/23/09 at 16:30:46:
And what happens? What's the advantage (just testing)


2 games. Koneru versus Smeets. From 2006.
It works. Smiley

So, don't be afraid to use PGN attachments. No viruses!
  

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And what happens? What's the advantage (just testing)
  

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Willempie wrote on 12/22/07 at 11:20:08:
Tony, just one question for clarification. I presume you are mostly referring to complete games and especially more than one game?

Yes, just complete games (especially long ones!) Smiley
  
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Tony, just one question for clarification. I presume you are mostly referring to complete games and especially more than one game?
  

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drkodos wrote on 12/22/07 at 02:56:18:
Is there a FAQ for doing this and other "nuts&bolts" forum stuff?

When you reply to a message there should be a box underneath the smilies with 'Attach:' written on the left and 'Browse...' on the right. Wink
You should also have a 'Help' tab above, to the right of 'Home' which is worth reading (I plan to read it myself one day ...!) Smiley
  
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 12/20/07 at 15:12:51:
Please use this instead of filling up pages with long games and analysis! I reserve the right to delete any posts that I think are too long! Shocked



Cool, now once I figure out how to actually do this I can put forth something I have been looking at in the symmetrical English....

Is there a FAQ for doing this and other "nuts&bolts" forum stuff?



Thanks for any answers/advice and apologies for any density displayed.

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Please use this instead of filling up pages with long games and analysis! I reserve the right to delete any posts that I think are too long! Shocked
  
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We have decided to allow PGN files to be attached to the messages for a trial period to see how it goes - there is a current limit of 50kb per file. Smiley
  
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