"What about a Bc5 system? Mark Morss has done some good research in his column Hard Chess on 3...Nf6 4.o-o Bc5. Shirov has had success with Bc5 in the Archangelsk." 

Hello,

I was interested in the lines mentioned above too. The problem seems to be an Anand v Leko game from 2000. In this game Anand's idea of playing Bb6*N, instead of Bc4, makes it very hard for black to ever play g5, because Bb6 and Nc6 can not be transfered to defend king-side. (Anand annotates game in chessbase, and seems to take sadistic pleasure in playing second rate moves, to show black can't do anything.) Earlier Leko had been successful in games against Topalov, when the later sacrifced peice for two pawns. All these games came after Mark Morss's articles.
             In the Archangelsk/Moller with Bc5, there are some nicely annotated games in Anand's best games book. Also Anand played a nice novelty against Topalov in recent Corus tournament.

Bye John S

so you want a solid defense to the ruy that offers black some counterplay and chances for initiative. hrm. i recommend the main line.

What about a Bc5 system? Mark Morss has done some good research in his column Hard Chess on 3...Nf6 4.o-o Bc5. Shirov has had success with Bc5 in the Archangelsk.

I am an attacking player , even with Black , and I need initiative
Formerly , I used to play Open Defence
I had good chances with Dilworth or McKenzie , but 9 Nbd2 has killed all that
so , I am looking for a defence that gives Black more chances of Initiative
What is most effective? of course the Schliemann , but I will not play it 
( I want something more strategical )
What can you propose me?