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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #128 - 05/02/07 at 00:12:11
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A Bishop´s Opening transposition and Belgrade Gambit are now available as an update to the book Beating the Open Games in Quality Chess site in news. 


I'm afraid that seems unclear to me. You mean it's available in a PDF file for download or the American (print) version will have it, or what?
  

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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #127 - 05/01/07 at 12:31:05
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Willempie or Markovic PLEASE HELP!!




ECO, if you have it, is sufficient to fill in most of these minor possibilities that you say Marin leaves out.  Apparently Marin's book should be viewed as a wide-ranging discourse and not a completely comprehensive repertoire book.

1.e4,e5 2.Nf3,Nc6 3.Nc3,Nf6 4.Bc4 and 4...Nxe4 is the best move, wiping out White's center pawn and conferring a slight space advantage on Black.  Standard then is 5. Nxe4 (not 5. Bxf7+ which only temporarily bothers Black and lets him build a massive pawn center) 5...d5  6. Bd3 dxe4  7. Bxe4.  Now 7...Bd6 is the main path, and Black has achieved at least equality.  Or Black can try Al Horowitz's tricky 7...Ne7!? when White's best is probably 8. c3.

After 4...Nxe4 White also has 5. 0-0 offering a Boden-Kieseritzky Gambit.  5...Nxc3 accepts, 5...Nd6 is, I believe, a safe way of declining, and 5...Be7!? is a move that was analyzed to equality in the 1916 edition of the Handbuch.  However 5...Be7  6. Nxe4 d5  7. Bd3 and White seems to have profited by the insertion of his 0-0 and Black's ...Be7.

I wasn't sure what you were talking about with your "Max Lange" idea; 4. Bc4 Nf6  5. d4 exd4  6. e5 has nothing to do with the Max, which arises from 5. 0-0 Bc5  6. e5.  But after 5. 0-0, Black is under no obligation to play 5...Bc5; 5...Nxe4 is entirely satisfactory.

Your 5. d4 exd4  6. e5 is usually called the "Modern Variation" and is White's most serious alternative to 4. Ng5!.  In the main line, 6...d5  7. Bb5 Ne4  8. Nxd4, White will double Black's c-pawns and try to blockade them by dominating c5 and d4, while also trying to arrange to kick back or exchage Black's knight and, if possible, arrange f4-f5.  Black often fights back with ...0-0 and ...f6.  Harding tried, without much success, to show that White is better; I don't think he believes that anymore.  But it's definitely a game of chess and a pretty respectable way for White to try to win.  There have been quite a few high-level games with it.

There's quite a bit of theory that both sides have to know.  For instance 8...Bc5!  9. Nxc6?! (9. 0-0?! 0-0!, 9. Be3!) 9...Bxf2+  10. Kf1 Qh4!  11. Qxd4 Bc5! and so forth.
  

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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #126 - 05/01/07 at 10:55:27
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A Bishop´s Opening transposition and Belgrade Gambit are now available as an update to the book Beating the Open Games in Quality Chess site in news.  Smiley
  

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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #125 - 04/17/07 at 22:38:00
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Also, in the Martinek-Vajs line, Van der Tak recommends 23..Ne1 24.Ng3 Qf7 -/+.  I haven't looked at this, but Fritz seems to like it.

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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #124 - 04/17/07 at 22:16:20
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Emms recommended 21..Nh4 as his main line.  It's a draw after 22.Qf1 Nf3 23.Qg2 Nh4, etc,  But perhaps Black can try for more with 22..Be7!?

Emms also notes that Black can try for the full point with 21..Be7 22.g5 Qf5, but stops his analysis there with the verdict of unclear.

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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #123 - 04/17/07 at 20:21:13
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@Willempie,

I dont have Emms book any longer, but I think Martinek-Vajs is not very critical after all:
From the standard position:

2kr2r1/ppp3Pp/2n1p2B/2b1q3/2p1N1P1/2P5/PP1p1P1P/R2QR1K1 w - -

Martinek-Vajs continued

17.Re2,Rd3
18.Qf1,Qd5
19.Rd1,Ne5
20.Qg2,Nf3+
21.Kf1, Be7
22.g5 , Qf5
23.h3 ,


Two notes on the moves above:
(1) 20.Nf6,Qf3 21.Nxg8,Qxg4+ is a very old drawing line.
(2) 19.Nxd2 made me wonder a bit. There seems to be no theory covering this move
The logic behind it would be that black might be in some trouble after
19...Ne5?! 20.Rxe5,Qxe5 21.Nxc4 when white has freed his position at little cost.




2k3r1/ppp1b1Pp/4p2B/5qP1/2p1N3/2Pr1n1P/PP1pRPQ1/3R1K2 b - -


Now Vais played the careless 23....Nh4? after which white freed himself with 24.Ng3!
But look at the position again:
How on earth is white going to free himself after
23.....,Qf4!
(Now 24.Ng3 is no longer a good idea because of 24...Bxg5)
Any piece-movement seems to drop something, while black is not short of waiting moves.
All white has left are some pawn-moves and what then.?


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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #122 - 04/17/07 at 19:02:10
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Sorry that you can't answer my question from my previous post on Marin's Max-Lange comments.
so:
Willempie or Markovic PLEASE HELP!!



Grin
I am afraid I cant answer your question just yet since I dont own the Emms book. But here's some thoughts (I havent kept up with the ML though):
-The line 15....,d3 16.c3, Be7 17.Qf3 may even be improved upon with 17.f4
-The main line with 16..d2 I thought was still open I thought, but you need an immprovement for black on Martinek-Vajs 1985. Maybe Emms has that improvement, but I am usually fairly sceptical in these ancient lines about such claims.
-What's the main line of Marin?
  

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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #121 - 04/17/07 at 18:27:24
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Missing transpostions in Marin's book:

Finally some transpositions seem missing:
1.e4,e5 2.Nc3,Nc6 3.Bc4 and now Marin states that 3...Bc5 4.Nf3,Nf6 will transpose to the 
Canal-variation, ignoring the possibility 4.Qg4 !? 

1.e4,e5 2.Nf3,Nc6 3.Nc3,Nf6 4.Bc4 is not in the book. Would Marin have recommend to transpose into the Canal-variation here as well? 4....Nxe4 seems an alternative worthy of attention
An alternative route (not given by Marin) is 1.e4,e5 2.Nc3,Nc6 3.Bc4,Nf6 4.d3, Bc5 (4.Nf3,Nxe4)

1.e4,e5 2.Nc3,Nc6 3.Nf3,Nc6 4.d4,xd4 5.Nd5 (Belgrad gambit) is missing
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Missing in the list of used literature:
(a)  Euwe: Theorie der SchachEröffnungen XI en XII (1966)
(b)  Euwe: Theorie der SchachEröffnungen XI  (1987; edited by Heike/Fette)
(c)  Zagorovsky: Romantic Chess Openings (1980)
(d)  The books on the open games by Palkövi and Pinski
(e)  The databases used are not mentioned
(Hardings Mega-Correspondence base was not used I think)
(f)   NCO/MCO

For further remarks on the book, see my previous post (see page 8 of this thread).
Despite some criticism I repeat that there is enough original material in the book
to be interested in it's companion volume on the Spanish.


@MNB
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1.e4,e5 2.Nf3,Nc6 3.Bc4, Bc5 4.c3,Nf6 5.d4,exd 6.0-0 is mentioned in the book:
it has its "own" footnote in the eco-table. Though there is nothing new in Marin's recommendation.
I think it's still a mater of taste how you judge the resulting endgame positions.

Sorry that you can't answer my question from my previous post on Marin's Max-Lange comments.
so:
Willempie or Markovic PLEASE HELP!!


  
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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #120 - 04/16/07 at 01:42:42
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Sorry to disappoint you, but I haven't kept track with the Max Lange for ten years or so. The reason is I would avoid it at either side of the board.
But I have a question. Has Marin noticed the transposition 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d4 exd4 6.c3 ?
  

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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #119 - 04/15/07 at 21:52:46
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Let's get away from the finer points of writing, and discuss the contents of the book

Each chapter in his book contains several introductory games and an ECO-style summary of variations.
This might work well, if all the games where chosen for their educational value. Unfortunately this is not always the case. Especially the games in the chapter onthe scottish lacks games that illustrate black's chances.

The reason for his choice of variations is not always clear to me. For instance:

He recommends the main variation of the Möller-attack for black, with variations running into 30 moves. A more positional sideline, as discussed on this forum, might have served the readers better:
1.e4,e5 2.Nf3,Nc6 3.Bc4,Bc5 4.c3,Nf6 5.d4,xd4 6.cxd,Bb4 7.Nc3,Nxe4 8.0-0,Bxc3 9.d5,Ne5!?
as preferred by Karpov.



The second recommendation is the Max-Lange attack, where he promotes a rarely tried sideline!
(I will come back to this at the end of this posting).

Finally some transpositions seem missing:
1.e4,e5 2.Nc3,Nc6 3.Bc4 and now Marin states that 3...Bc5 4.Nf3,Nf6 will transpose to the
Canal-variation, ignoring the possibility 4.Qg4
1.e4,e5 2.Nc3,Nc6 3.Nf3,Nc6 4.Bc4 is not in the book. Would Marin have recommend to transpose into the Canal-variation here as well? 4....Nxe4 seems more solid.
An alternative route (not given by Marin) is 1.e4,e5 2.Nc3,Nc6 3.Bc4,Nf6 4.d3, Bc5 (4.Nf3,Nxe4)


Finally there is something curious about the index of variations. As a matter of fact it's less detailed than the contents list. Making it quite hard to seek for transpositions!

That being said, there is quite a bit of original analysis and good advice in this book. So I still look forward to the companion volume on the Spanish.

Now lets return to the Max-Lange attack.

1.e4,e5 2.Nf3,Nc6 3.Bc4, Bc5 4.0-0, Nf6 5.d4, exd 6.e5,d5 7.exf, dxc 8.Re1+,Be6
9.Ng5,Qd5 10.Nc3,Qf5 11.Nce4,0-0-0 12.g4, Qe5 13.Nxe6,fxe6 14.fxg7,Rhg8 15.Bh6

2kr2r1/ppp3Pp/2n1p2B/2b1q3/2ppN1P1/8/PPP2P1P/R2QR1K1 b - -











Here Marin recommends 15...Be7!?, reasoning that 15....,d3 16.c3, Be7 17.Qf3 would provide white with the better position. In fact he goes so far as to state that his analysis of these variations
"is critical for the evaluation of 15...Be7!? and possibly for the Max-Lange attack".

Here I need some help from our Italian experts (So Mnb and Willempie enlighten me, please!).
What happened to 15...d3 16.c3,d2 (instead of 16...Be7) which I supposed to be the main line?
This line was quite thouroughly analysed in John Emms repertoire book on 1.e4,e5.
Did anyone think up a refutation, while I was asleep???



















  
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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #118 - 04/13/07 at 05:59:45
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Yet another example of "pressurize" can be heard on the Topalov-Kasimdzanov clip: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3249
  

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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #117 - 04/11/07 at 14:33:03
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J-dog wrote on 03/23/07 at 18:53:19:
I've been thinking about the pressure/pressurize thing for quite awhile, but I wasn't gonna say anything. However, now that it has been brought it up, I'd like to say that as an American, I thought "pressurize" sounded distinctly wrong, but like Markovich, when I looked it up in the dictionary I was surprised to find it was correct.  Well, mostly.  It seems most definitions of "pressurize" involve some sort of liquid or gas, like atmospheres (like the cabins of airplanes) or in cooking. "Press" also comes into consideration in this conversation.

After some thought, I've come to some conclusions on the subtle connotations/feelings of these words derived from my own experience:

Pressurize sounds:
1.Impersonal/Scientific
2.Localized

Pressure sounds:
1.Personal/Psychological

Press sounds:
1. General/Abstract, covering a wide or total range.

"Before the game my seconds pressured me into playing 9.Nd5 in the Sveshnikov.  After a grueling fight, where I had pressed my opponent continually and methodically on all fronts, he eventually capitulated.  From the get go, I had pressurized the d6 point with my heavy pieces."  

Of course these are just my opinions and somebody else might get a totally different feeling from these words.

On a similar note, in chess books I see the word "commonest" quite often.  It sounds funny to me because my whole life I have used the term "most common" instead.  In fact, I can't recall ever hearing/seeing "commonest" until I picked up a chess book.  I know that both are correct, though.


"Pressurized" is used in at least two recent game annotations in NiC magazine.

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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #116 - 04/02/07 at 21:41:30
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Independent of any grammarian's concerns, what is the verdict on these two books? 

Do I understand correctly that "A Spanish Opening Repertoire for Black" may already be out in the UK?

I recently bought Greet's very nice Ruy Lopez book from White perspective, and am thinking about bringing 1.  ... e5 back into my repertoire after years of primarily 1.  ... e6.

How do Marin's tomes stack up, for anyone who has seen one or both.
  
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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #115 - 03/28/07 at 15:26:16
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Yeah, I noticed that. It beats me how anyone could confuse these two words, but wrong is more frequent than right these days. Diffusing the tension is a particular favourite, which is more understandable inasmuch as it could almost be right - in fact when I corrected it peevishly in one book I was proof-reading the editor refused to accept it on the grounds it was 'too late to contact the author now and anyway he rather liked it'.
  
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Re: New 1...e5! book by Mikhail Marin!
Reply #114 - 03/28/07 at 15:24:29
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And as it happens Glenn Flear has done the same: in his Slav 4...a6 book.
  
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