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Poll closed Question: Latvian aficionados, how to meet :1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Nxe5!
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3... Qf6    
  6 (60.0%)
3...Nc6 !?    
  2 (20.0%)
3...Nf6 ?!    
  1 (10.0%)
3... d6 ?!    
  0 (0.0%)
  1 (10.0%)
3... something else ??    
  0 (0.0%)

Total votes: 10
« Last Modified by: Bubu13 on: 05/14/06 at 19:20:50 »
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Re: latvian gambit opinion
Reply #2 - 05/15/06 at 20:30:50
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I have voted 3..Nf6 according my analysis in previous answer on Latvian gambit forum ( I repeat it ):
 3.Nxe5 Nf6!?

 This may become one of th main lines in future. Black loses a whole pawn, but without embroiling  himself in complex variations. Often  there is an  exchange  of queens and also  the queenside pawns  with a draw on account  the resulting 3 vs.2  pawns on  the kingside.  
            a) 4.d4 fxe4 is a transposition to 3.d4, not  a problem  for Black

            b) 4.Nc3 permits the Black the complete freedom in the old well-known line 4..fxe4 5. Bc4 d5! 6.Nxd5 Nxd5 7.Qh5+ g6 8.Nxg6 hxg6!, so it's one of the Main Lines of Chapter 12  in Kosten's book "The Latvian gambit lives!", now:
               b1) 9.Qxh8?! can be met by 9..Qf6 or 9..Nb4!? and even 9..Qg5!?,
               b2) 9.Qxg6+ Ke7!? 10.d3 (!? Kosten) 10..Qd6!? i.e. 11.Bg5+ Kd7 12.Qf5+ Kc6 13.Qxc8 Qe5 etc. ,
             Alternately 9.Qxg6 Kd7 is not problem  either (10. Bxd5 Qe8!? -Destrebecq -, or 10..c6 )
            c) 4.exf5 Qe7 ( 4..d6 is less clear ) 5.Qe2 d6 Usually Queens are changed and Black must to play an ending where it has chances to exchange the queenside pawns and draw easily the resulting 3 vs. 2 on the kingside situation ( summarizing, as in other LG variations, indeed ). I must to admit it is not very accurate and not the best attitude choosing such variations but something is necessary to do with the gambit after Silman's note, if not Latvian days are numbered ...
After this several engines give only slight advantage to White,

              c1) 6.Nc4 and now 6..d5 ( better than 6..Bxf5 directly of Tenner-Donny,1972; Kosten book page 116 ) 7.Ne5 Bxf5 8.d4 ( Sakai-Petrie, 4th. LG World Tourn. preliminaries, 2001-02 ) 8..Nc6!? 9.Nxc6 bxc6 10.Qxe7+ ( or 10.c3 Qxe2+ 11.Bxe2 Rb8 12.Nd2 Bd6 13.0-0 0-0 with very playable game ) 10..Bxe7 11.Bd3 ( 11.c4 c5! ) 11..Bxd3 12.cxd3 c5! 13.dxc5 Bxc5 only with an small advantage. Of course, there are other White possibilities, but I don’t see a lineal and clear new improvements.  

              c2) 6.Nf3 Bxf5 7.Nd4 Bd7 have been tested many times. In Tiemann’s second ed. of his book “Lettisches gambiet”, page 42, he himself recommend 8.c4 Nc6 9.Nxc6 Bxc6 10.d4 d5 11.c5 0-0-0 12.Qxe7 Bxe7 13.Be2 followed by Nc3 and Be3 “mit weiBem Vorteil”, but simply 10..Qxe2+ and White must to capture with the King ! which it’s a bit stupid indeed !?; also 8..c5!? its interesting, 9.Nc2 Nc6 10.Nc3 Bf5 or 10..Bg4!?. Instead of 8.c4, 8.Nc3 have been tried more usually; now Black can play untested 8..c5!? 9.Nf3 Nc6 10.d4 Bg4 or 10.d3 0-0-0, or playing logical 8..Nc6. In fact, I justify Kosten completely when he says “ Black has no real compensation for his pawn “ in Müller-Diepstraten, 1985 after 9.Nxc6 Bxc6 10.Qxe7+ Bxe7 11.Bb5 but after 11..Bxb5 12.Nxb5 Nd5 ( or 11..Kd7 ) Black possibilities must not underestimated, Hiarcs9 give 13.d3 ( 13.Nc3 Nb4 uncastle the King ) 13..0-0 14.0-0 a6 only + 0,40 for White !?

           d) 4.Bc4 is the only relatively "dangerous" move  
              After 4..Qe7 5.d4 Nc6 by trasposition we are in Morgado System named after his success at the beginning of '70s.
              6.0-0 White has only a slight adventage according Kosten's book
              6.Nc3!? may be stronger.
              6... Nxe5 7.dxe5 Qxe5 8.0-0 returns  the pawn, but  opens up the position leaving Black's King and Queen on the same file. Now 8..fxe4 9.Nd5! threatening Bf4 is dangerous for Black.
              Instead Kosten suggests 8..Bd6!? 9.g3 fxe4 and, if 10.Bf4 directly, 10..Qc5 11.Bxd6 Qxc4 or 12.Re1 Bb4 playable for Black.      
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Re: latvian gambit opinion
Reply #1 - 05/15/06 at 08:05:06
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I've voted for 3...Nc6, as that's the way I prefer to play it in blitz. However, I acknowledge that 3...Nc6 is totally refuted.

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latvian gambit opinion
05/14/06 at 19:20:10
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Latvian afficionados, please, give your opinion about : 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Nxe5! ...
What is your favorite way of playing ?
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