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Re: Caro Advance: 4 Nc3 a6
Reply #5 - 06/27/06 at 08:10:44
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Currently at work, but tomorrow I will have time to look into it much deeper, so maybe it is an idea to set up a game starting with the moves 1 e4 c6 2 d4 d5 3 e5 Bf5 4 Nc3 a6?
So if you're willing to wait a day we could start tomorrow:)

I do remember that my main problem I had with a6 is that when white goes kingside the move a6 is less usefull then Qb6 in putting the pressure on d4. I have played one game as white with this opening (rapid) in which I went into it with 5 g4 (better than against Qb6, though unsure if it is good) and 6 f4 followed by major offenses on the kingside.

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Re: Caro Advance: 4 Nc3 a6
Reply #4 - 06/25/06 at 13:11:02
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I'll be interested to learn what turned you off 4 ... a6.  4 ... Qb6 is, obviously, a fine move, but many years ago I acquired a habit of developing my queen early like this (in a variety of openings, not the Caro), and then found she was on the wrong side of the board to contribute to defending my king.  So I suppose I'm just a little wary of it.  What I find interesting about the Caro-Kann is that it is so solid that Black can afford to make waiting moves like 4... a6, which makes sure that White can't drop a piece onto b5, and not suffer too much from being behind in development...
  

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Re: Caro Advance: 4 Nc3 a6
Reply #3 - 06/24/06 at 13:34:58
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When I play the CK I play the 4..Qb6 line with similar ideas, but remember that I didnt like the looks of 4..a6. So I have to look it up a bit to see why I didnt like it.
  

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Re: Caro Advance: 4 Nc3 a6
Reply #2 - 06/23/06 at 22:18:05
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Thanks for the reply.  I think 5 g4 might be premature (I believe the "rule" is only after Black has played e7-e6 and closed off the retreat in that direction), but can't say for sure whether it's bad in practice.  Any takers?  The more the merrier...
  

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Re: Caro Advance: 4 Nc3 a6
Reply #1 - 06/23/06 at 15:17:09
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I don't play the Advanced against the Caro and haven't looked at this enough to form a definite opinion/preference, but here are few possible options for White:

5.Be3 e6 (5...Qb6 6.Bd3 is interesting when Black should probably not grab the poisoned pawn; 5...Qc7 6.Bd3 Bxd3 and both 7.Qxd3 and 7.cxd3 are possible) 6.g4 Bg6 7.Nge2 was the start of Nataf-Karpov, Cannes 2002 (which went well for Black).

Other fifth moves for White:

5.Bd3 (or maybe 5.h4 h5 6.Bd3)

5.g4 Bd7 (5...Bg6 6.e6!?) 6.Bd3

I'm not sure if this is the kind of response your looking for; haven't looked at the BDG discussion games you refer to.

I applaud your efforts to resurrect the 'dead board' (http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1144463413/26#26); hope I can help.
  

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Caro Advance: 4 Nc3 a6
06/23/06 at 13:45:17
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Dear all,

I noticed in Joe Gallagher's Starting Out: The Caro-Kann that Gallagher referred to this line:

1 e4 c6 2 d4 d5 3 e5 Bf5 4 Nc3 a6

stating: "this could be a line for the future."  In the Chesspublishing Caro ebook,Andy Martin refers to it as a "high class waiting move."  But few games have employed 4 ... a6.  I would like to propose that we start a discussion/analysis game in this line to evaluate the pros and cons of this line.  I am willing to defend the honor of the Black side here if someone would like to look for White's best route.  I don't consider this a challenge or a competition, but rather I want to draw from the success of the BDG discussion games played last year as a model.  Can we get under the skin of this "line for the future"?
  

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