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C18: Winawer with 7. Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 NBc6 9.Bg5!? (Read 9484 times)

chandrashekharkoravi Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 155 Joined: 08/13/13	Re: C18: Winawer with 7. Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 NBc6 9.Bg5!? Reply #7 - 07/21/15 at 18:29:36	Post Tools	Print Post
	There is a latest update on this line chessbase magazine volume 166.Which shows a good way to handle this line.Bg5 was marked as a good move by EM and f5 is a excellent move instead of 14.Ra2


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DeepDraw YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 9 Joined: 06/29/06	Re: Winawer with 7. Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 NBc6 9.Bg5!? Reply #6 - 07/23/06 at 09:13:16	Post Tools	Print Post
	dom wrote on 07/23/06 at 08:17:42: Play the game and post it when ended (No more comment till game is over). Good luck Well, the game is over... The result is a draw, but I think, white made some unprizice moves and I think, white is clearly better... [White "White"] [Black "Black"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [WhiteElo ""] [BlackElo ""] 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 Ne7 7.Qg4 O-O 8.Bd3 Nbc6 9.Bg5 Qa5 10.Ne2 Ng6 11.O-O Qa4 12.f4 c4 13.Bxg6 fxg6 14.Ra2 Bd7 15.h4 Rf5 16.h5 gxh5 17.Qxh5 h6 18.g4 Rf7 19.Kg2 Be8 20.Rh1 Rf6 21.Qh3 Rg6 22.Bh4 Bd7 23.Qg3 Rf8 24.f5 Rxf5 25.Nf4 Rxf4 26.Qxf4 Qa5 27.Rh3 Qb5 28.Ra1 Qb2 29.Rf1 Qxc2+ 30.Rf2 Qe4+ 31.Qxe4 dxe4 32.Kg3 h5 33.Rf4 Rxg4+ 34.Rxg4 hxg4 35.Kxg4 Nb8 36.Kf4 Bc6 37.Ke3 Nd7 38.Bd8 Nf8 39.Rh1 Ng6 40.Ra1 Nh8 41.a4 Nf7 42.Bc7 Nh6 43.a5 Nf5+ 44.Ke2 a6 45.Bd8 Kf7 46.Bg5 1/2-1/2


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dom God Member Offline Posts: 908 Location: Toulouse Joined: 01/11/03 Gender:	Re: Winawer with 7. Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 NBc6 9.Bg5!? Reply #5 - 07/23/06 at 08:17:42	Post Tools	Print Post
	Play the game and post it when ended (No more comment till game is over). Good luck

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DeepDraw YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 9 Joined: 06/29/06	Re: Winawer with 7. Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 NBc6 9.Bg5!? Reply #4 - 07/22/06 at 20:19:49	Post Tools	Print Post
	dom wrote on 07/22/06 at 10:25:02: Game is following Koch-Apicella, Chambery 1994 game. This game is referenced by Tiemann's book about French Nc3 and analysed in great "oo-Winawer" Kindermann's book. Did i mention I don't know if "help" is not advised in corr. games ? Of course 20.Rh1? looses a good pawn ... but I didn't analysed the position avec Rxf4. [Event "FRA-ch"] [Site "Chambery"] [Date "1994.08.??"] [Round "0"] [White "Koch,Jean Rene"] [Black "Apicella,Manuel"] [Result "1/2"] [Eco "C18"] 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 Ne7 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 c5 7.Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 Nbc6 9.Bg5 Qa5 10.Ne2 Ng6 11.0-0 Qa4 12.f4 c4 13.Bxg6 fxg6 14.Ra2 Bd7 15.h4 Rf5 16.h5 gxh5 17.Qxh5 h6 18.g4 Rf7 19.Kg2 Be8 20.Qh3 hxg5 21.f5 exf5 22.gxf5 Ne7 23.Rh1 Rxf5 24.Ng3 Rf4 25.Qh8+ Kf7 26.Rh7 Ke6 27.Qxg7 Bf7 28.Qxg5 Ng6 29.Rh6 Kd7 30.Rxg6 Bxg6 31.Qxf4 Qc6 32.Ra1 Qe6 33.Rh1 Rg8 34.Rh6 Ke8 35.Qf6 Qxf6 36.exf6 Kf7 37.Kf3 Kxf6 38.Rh2 Re8 39.Nh5+ Kg5 40.Nf4 Be4+ 41.Kg3 Rg8 1/2 Right, thats the refering game... but which good pawn does white lose after 20.Th1 ? Do you mean 20. ... Rxf4 ? If thats your move, I think, white can get a winning postion, beginning with 21.Qh4 Rf8 22. Bxh6...


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dom God Member Offline Posts: 908 Location: Toulouse Joined: 01/11/03 Gender:	Re: Winawer with 7. Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 NBc6 9.Bg5!? Reply #3 - 07/22/06 at 10:25:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	Game is following Koch-Apicella, Chambery 1994 game. This game is referenced by Tiemann's book about French Nc3 and analysed in great "oo-Winawer" Kindermann's book. Did i mention I don't know if "help" is not advised in corr. games ? Of course 20.Rh1? looses a good pawn ... but I didn't analysed the position avec Rxf4. [Event "FRA-ch"] [Site "Chambery"] [Date "1994.08.??"] [Round "0"] [White "Koch,Jean Rene"] [Black "Apicella,Manuel"] [Result "1/2"] [Eco "C18"] 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 Ne7 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 c5 7.Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 Nbc6 9.Bg5 Qa5 10.Ne2 Ng6 11.0-0 Qa4 12.f4 c4 13.Bxg6 fxg6 14.Ra2 Bd7 15.h4 Rf5 16.h5 gxh5 17.Qxh5 h6 18.g4 Rf7 19.Kg2 Be8 20.Qh3 hxg5 21.f5 exf5 22.gxf5 Ne7 23.Rh1 Rxf5 24.Ng3 Rf4 25.Qh8+ Kf7 26.Rh7 Ke6 27.Qxg7 Bf7 28.Qxg5 Ng6 29.Rh6 Kd7 30.Rxg6 Bxg6 31.Qxf4 Qc6 32.Ra1 Qe6 33.Rh1 Rg8 34.Rh6 Ke8 35.Qf6 Qxf6 36.exf6 Kf7 37.Kf3 Kxf6 38.Rh2 Re8 39.Nh5+ Kg5 40.Nf4 Be4+ 41.Kg3 Rg8 1/2

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986 Full Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 105 Location: Germany Joined: 06/11/05	Re: Winawer with 7. Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 NBc6 9.Bg5!? Reply #2 - 07/16/06 at 17:32:53	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: Or some advices of further threats here? Yes, please post the game in pgn. Cheers, Tom


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DeepDraw YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 9 Joined: 06/29/06	Re: Winawer with 7. Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 NBc6 9.Bg5!? Reply #1 - 07/15/06 at 09:10:54	Post Tools	Print Post
	Has realy nobody experince with this variantion? Or some advices of further threats here?


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DeepDraw YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 9 Joined: 06/29/06	C18: Winawer with 7. Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 NBc6 9.Bg5!? 07/04/06 at 03:12:36	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hallo! I played a cc-game with the variation above. My oppoment played: 9. ... Qa5 10.Ne2 Ng6 11.0-0 Qa4 12.f4 c4 13.Bg6: fg6: 14.Ra2 Bd7 15.h4 Rf5 16.h5 gh5: 17.Qh5: h6 18.g4 Rf7 19.Kg2 Be8 20.Rh1 I am not sure, but I think 20.Rh1 was the novelty. I had to sac the exchance and managed to hold the draw only by some weaker moves of my opponent. Any suggestions, where to play better in that line?
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