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Re: What is the critical test of the Benko?
Reply #10 - 01/20/07 at 15:52:41
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I think you folks want everything on plate Smiley. The original idea was to find somrthing against the 11.Nh4! move order. Then 11...Qd7 is the only adequate move i found and the good thing is that it transposes to the main line after 11.b3 Bb7 12.Nh4 Qd7! because white has to play the move b3 sooner or later. 
  I'll give you some variations 11.Nh4 Qd7 12.b3 0-0 13.0-0 Bb7 when critical seems 14.Qd2! (avoiding the g5 ideas f.i 14.Bb2 g5!) but 14...Rd8! with the isea e6 seems fine in all variations.
  
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Re: What is the critical test of the Benko?
Reply #9 - 01/16/07 at 17:55:54
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Sorry, I didn't read your post properly.  Embarrassed

But when looking at the position, I wonder what the idea of 12. ... Qd7 is.
Is it to play the old plan with h6 and g5? I have no other idea.
Then white could only prevent this by playing Qc2 at the expense of the d5-pawn.
By the way, Fritz suggests 13.b4 or 13.0-0 h6 14.b4.
  
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Re: What is the critical test of the Benko?
Reply #8 - 01/16/07 at 11:58:20
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no more pain and anguish? I´ll have a look when I get a chance but it looks suspicious to me.
  
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Re: What is the critical test of the Benko?
Reply #7 - 01/16/07 at 10:01:26
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FightingDragon i think you didn't understand. Our improvement is 11..Bb7 12.Nh4 Qd7! not in the variation with Bc8.
  
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Re: What is the critical test of the Benko?
Reply #6 - 01/12/07 at 20:51:41
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@Ametanoitos: 
We already had this topic: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1139409722 ; Wink

Do you have any improvement? Lately as I looked at the variation again I discovered that white gets a strong initiative after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4.cb5: a6 5.ba6: g6 6.Nc3 Ba6: 7.Nf3 Bg7 8.g3 d6 9.Bg2 Nbd7 10.Rb1 Nb6 11.b3 Bc8 12.Nh4 h6 13.Qc2 Qd7 14.Bb2 g5 15.Nf3 Bb7 16.Rd1 0-0 17.0-0 Nfd5: 18.Nd5: Nd5: 19.Ng5:!? (instead of 19.Bg7:) hg5: 20.Bg7: Nb4 21.Qc3! Rfb8 22.Bb7: Qb7: 23.Bh6 f6 24.f4!

What is your opinion?
  
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Re: What is the critical test of the Benko?
Reply #5 - 12/26/06 at 01:21:01
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Ok, i'll just give you the key move and then if you want to analyse further. 10.Rb1 Nb6 11.b3 (11.Nh4 Qd7!) Bb7 12.Nh4 Qd7!

Of course i have done a lot of analysis here but i think it's better first to search some things for yourselves and then i can give you more Wink
  
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Re: What is the critical test of the Benko?
Reply #4 - 12/23/06 at 02:46:05
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@Ametanoitos: I would be interested in your idea against Rb1.  Smiley 
Last time I analysed the variation I wasn't satisfied with Nb6 so now I would play 0-0 and Qa5.
  
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Re: What is the critical test of the Benko?
Reply #3 - 12/22/06 at 11:59:58
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Van der Weide's analysis is not so great as i found out. I still trust 12..Nb6 when i think white has to be very carefull to avoid disaster! Also in the fianchetto/Rb1 benko i have analysed with my teacher a great idea for black which gives white a headache i think. If you are interested i can give you some brief notes. To me the critical test of the benko are all the declined variations like Nf3 (with Nfd2 as in a recent book of Grivas'), Qc2 and 4.f3! which may be the best of all these -play-for-e4 ideas of white!
  
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Re: What is the critical test of the Benko?
Reply #2 - 12/22/06 at 08:00:58
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To be honest, I find van der Weide's articles quite entertaining, but he doesn't seem very objective to me.
Come on, he doesn't even mention black's best reply 12. ... Qb6 after
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5 4.cxb5 a6 5.bxa6 g6 6.Nc3 Bxa6 7.e4 Bxf1 8.Kxf1 d6 9.Nf3 Bg7 10.g3 0-0 11.Kg2 Nbd7 12.Re1 .
The point is that after 13.e5 de5: 14.Ne5: Ne5: 15.Re5: Qb7! pins the d-pawn and gives black equal chances.
  
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Re: What is the critical test of the Benko?
Reply #1 - 12/20/06 at 20:47:23
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What is the critical test of the Benko?
12/20/06 at 16:01:39
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Hello, Benko gurus,

This question is directed at IM Cox:

I have been reading about the 10. Rb1 move in the fianchetto variation of the Benko and the difficulties white has/is facing when black plays 13..Nb6. I was watching a game between an IM and a master and the master was black and the moves were: d4 nf6 c4 c5 d5 b5 cb a6 nc3 g6 Qc2 Bg7 e4 0-0 Nf3 d6 Be2 a6 Bb5 Qa5 0-0... Is this line supposed to be good for black? Well, black lost the game. White did not play the fianchetto variation in that game and is it supposed to be THE critical line against the Benko? Then, why did white play another varation against the Benko, and win, rather than the critical fianchetto variation?
  
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