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Re: Alekhine's Defense
Reply #7 - 12/26/06 at 23:24:37
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Quite frankly a player has no excuse to be unprepared these days. The theory is all laid out there for you nicely wrapped and tied and if you lack the time to assimilate it you just choose a less critical course. Admittedly such an approach only works with white though  Undecided

There is just no easy answer with Black, its gunna be a bumpy ride no matter what you choose, but whatever you decide on make sure you know it well and feel comfortable with it.

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Re: Alekhine's Defense
Reply #6 - 12/26/06 at 20:06:45
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Hi all, I thinking of playing the Alekhine but am doubting if it's really the defense for me. My friend (who's a FM and used to play the Alekhine) doubts that it really suits me since I tend to think defensively. I always tend to think of defense before attack. I'm wondering if I should still dabble in the Alekhine or play the Taimanov which caught my interest lately. As far as I can see:
Pros of Alekhine:
1) Surprise opponent as they are usually unprepared
Here's a 8+7 game which I played in playchess 
1. e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.d4 d6 5.f4 dxe5 6.fxe5 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Nc3 exd5 9.cxd5 c4 10.Nf3 Bd7 11.a3 Be7 12.Be2 Bc5 13.Ne4 Na6 14.b4 Bf8 15.Bb2 Ba4 16.Qd2 Rc8 17.Nc3 g6 18. o-o Bg7 19.Kh1 o-o 20.Rae1 Nc7 21.Nxa4 Nxa4 22.Bxc4 Nxb2 23.Qxb2 Nxd5 24.Qb3 Nf4 25.e6 Nxe6 26.Rxe6 fxe6 27.Bxe6+ Kh8 28.Bxc8 Qxc8

and here I won on time by nearly 5 mins.
2) Less theory than sicilian.
3) Sharp positions (although I'm not entirely sure that's good for me)

Cons:
1. The sharp positions
2. Under a lot of pressure atm
3. Not really advocated by high Gm's

Any advice? Thanks in advance.



The Alekhine is a very combative defense, but it requires a lot of imagination and toughness to play it well.  I disagree that the likelihood of one's opponents being unprepared is a good reason to play Alekhine's.  There are various solid ways of playing against it that don't demand a great deal of theoretical knowledge.  If White does try an edgy variation such as the 4 Pawns or the Chase, you can bet he'll be prepared -- you just have to be better prepared.

Concerning your game, I am deeply mistrustful of 6...c5, and myself prefer 6...Nc6.
  

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Re: Alekhine's Defense
Reply #5 - 12/26/06 at 18:27:50
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I can't see you surviving too long against a fully prepared player against the Four Pawns Attack.

If you like Solid play at the risk of being lynched - how about the following:

Petroff, Breyer or Berlin defences to the Ruy Lopez and the ever steady Caro. Of course with 1...e5 you might think 2 f4 is too sharp !!

Given that your prepared to work, any of the above should be fine but if you really pushed me as to what your plan of action should be I would just say find another line against the Four Pawns Attack.

GM endorsement of any line or lack of is not necessarily an impediment to a line being fully playable. Openings come and go with the fashion. If Kramnik started to play the Alekhine, then I'd reckon we'd be on to a trend !

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Re: Alekhine's Defense
Reply #4 - 12/25/06 at 00:55:15
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Hi all, I thinking of playing the Alekhine but am doubting if it's really the defense for me. My friend (who's a FM and used to play the Alekhine) doubts that it really suits me since I tend to think defensively. I always tend to think of defense before attack. I'm wondering if I should still dabble in the Alekhine or play the Taimanov which caught my interest lately. 

Any advice? Thanks in advance.


Perhaps the Caro-Kann would suit your defensive temperment better, so why not give that a shot.

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Re: Alekhine's Defense
Reply #3 - 12/24/06 at 20:41:07
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Well as far as specific lines go, I think you chose a difficult system to defend for Black in the game that you gave.  It's hard to give opening recommendations based on one game!

I still think that if you're interested in it, give it a try.  You can always go back to your other openings later.
  
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Re: Alekhine's Defense
Reply #2 - 12/23/06 at 21:11:41
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I played through your game rather quickly and it seems to me that white got you under a lot of pressure during the whole game even when he made some lesser moves (eg the knight manoeuvres from and to e4 and Kh1) in the opening. So I think your friend may be right with regards to making it your main choice. On the other hand if you give it a wirl every once in a while it is not bad as it will broaden your horizons. So I kinda agree with the previous post.
  

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Re: Alekhine's Defense
Reply #1 - 12/23/06 at 18:40:45
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I think you should play whatever you want at any given moment.  Creatively, your mind is interested in the Alekhine, so you should play it.  Even if it doesn't end up being your main defence, you will learn some new things and enjoy yourself doing it.  The Taimanov is probably the better long-term choice, but if you're excited about the Alekhine, I'd play that for a while.  You can always switch after 6 months or so.  Some people discourage switching openings, but I think it's good for your chess to some extent.  You need to play new positions to expand your abilities, and you really need to play chess that is interesting to you.  You will have better results if you play openings that you are creatively interested in, I've found.

I'm a long time Taimanov player, but a couple of years ago I got into Alekhine's Defence.  I bought Davies' and Cox's books, studied them for a bit, and played a lot of Alekhine games over the course of a year.  I really enjoyed myself, and my results didn't get any worse, either!  I've since given it up, but I'm glad I explored it, because it enriched my ideas of what is possible when playing with Black.
  
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Alekhine's Defense
12/23/06 at 11:57:16
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Hi all, I thinking of playing the Alekhine but am doubting if it's really the defense for me. My friend (who's a FM and used to play the Alekhine) doubts that it really suits me since I tend to think defensively. I always tend to think of defense before attack. I'm wondering if I should still dabble in the Alekhine or play the Taimanov which caught my interest lately. As far as I can see:
Pros of Alekhine:
1) Surprise opponent as they are usually unprepared
Here's a 8+7 game which I played in playchess 
1. e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.d4 d6 5.f4 dxe5 6.fxe5 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Nc3 exd5 9.cxd5 c4 10.Nf3 Bd7 11.a3 Be7 12.Be2 Bc5 13.Ne4 Na6 14.b4 Bf8 15.Bb2 Ba4 16.Qd2 Rc8 17.Nc3 g6 18. o-o Bg7 19.Kh1 o-o 20.Rae1 Nc7 21.Nxa4 Nxa4 22.Bxc4 Nxb2 23.Qxb2 Nxd5 24.Qb3 Nf4 25.e6 Nxe6 26.Rxe6 fxe6 27.Bxe6+ Kh8 28.Bxc8 Qxc8

and here I won on time by nearly 5 mins.
2) Less theory than sicilian.
3) Sharp positions (although I'm not entirely sure that's good for me)

Cons:
1. The sharp positions
2. Under a lot of pressure atm
3. Not really advocated by high Gm's

Any advice? Thanks in advance.

  
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