yes, the Breutigam CD is a good bet - the best info available on this, tho a tad dated now. Seems a conscientious, thorough chap - cant fault his output much thus far, though he is not so highly rated.

Panczyk and ilczuk have an ok chapter in their book Offbeat kings indian(2004)

For black, gallagher gives it the once over in his book.

Si

IMJohnCox wrote on 02/19/07 at 14:10:11:


Thanks, I have found it. 

IMJohnCox wrote on 02/19/07 at 14:10:11:


   

Antillian wrote on 02/19/07 at 13:18:46:


http://www.chessbase.com/shop/product.asp?pid=143

This CD got fine reviews and was discussed in a book on how to use computers for chess improvement. (Can't remember the title now.)

Btw, I'm trying out the h3-system in a CC game now. We'll see how it turns out.

The makagonov system is indeed difficult to play, i've looked at the Breutigam CD but it doesn't inspire confidence, in at least a few places his analysis seems too optimistic. Somehow the entire White construction seems too ambitious, and Black is the one with the more solid position. I suppose it only works if Black doesn't know his stuff. 

Any of 5. f3, 5. Bd3, 5. Nge2, 5. Be2/6. Bg5 (all of which geared to prevent Black's kingside attack) are easier to play than 5. h3 me thinks, if one is intent on avoiding the Classical.

People are very down on Grivas' book for no terribly good reason I can see.  His coverage of this line looks OK to me. The famous Breutigam Chessbase CD is also on this line.

I played it (the Makagonov) for a while. It's not restful, is what I would say. It's very difficult to play, quite possibly for both sides. I got completely slaughtered in a London League match by someone of a fairly low rating (although playing a lot better than it). He played ...c6 and ...Qa5 and so on, and at some moment I went h4-h5 in what I thought was the approved manner. He replied with ...gxh5 (a move I hadn't imagined) and after gxh5 ...Nh7-g5 (I had forced ...h6 out of him cunningly earlier, in order as I thought to weaken the white squares), then ....f5, and I was destroyed.

But these things happen in the best of families. It's an interesting system and I'm sure it's fine, but it's ambitious (probably objectively overambitious, I would imagine), and when playing ambitiously you do need to budget for the occasional trainwreck, I guess.

It's certainly dangerous in the hands of Krazenkov !

It certainly leads to a different kind of game compared to some of the other main white lines but I would say that it is both strategically and tactically complex. If white goes wrong he can find himself in a real mess.

If Black does not know it then white normally has very strong results.

I wouldn't waste any time on Grivas's  anti-KID .

I do think your on the right lines in aiming to play lines where the opponent isn't in his comfort zone or getting the kind of game that he wants !

Andrew Brett

Ptero wrote on 02/12/07 at 19:38:24:


Yes, I recently got that book. That is what inspired me to consider that system....that and the regular updates on Chesspub

Hi Willempie, 

First moves of the Makogonov are 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 Gerry gives a good indication of some of the plans. White typically delays castling and often has play on both sides of the board. 

Yes, Gerry, I have heard about Krasenkow. I think he has a 70% + score with this system.