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Re: Interesting sequence, kindly note.
Reply #3 - 03/07/07 at 10:28:04
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parisestmagique wrote on 03/07/07 at 09:02:35:
Hy, i am not Chris but i have a few remarks : 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. Be3 d6 7. Qd2 Nf6 8. f3 O-O 9. g4 Nxd4 10. Bxd4 Be6 11. Nd5 Bxd5 12. exd5 Qc7
1/ why 2... Nc6 allowing 3.Bb5
2/ 9... Nxd4 ?! Dearing and others thinks that 9... Be6 is more precise
3/ 11. Nd5 ?! Theoricians thinks that 11.h4 ! is stronger for white
4/ 12... Qc7 why not try your idea immediatly e5 or e6 !?
5/ I presume that the 13 white's move is h4 and after e5 very strong for white seems 14.dxe6 Re8 15.000 Rxe6 16.h5 Rc8 17.c3 and Black has not much conterplay.


Hearty million thanks for your valuable time and energy. Kindly tell me about the statistics about the particular position, not taking consideration 12. ...Qc7 into account. ie; the position is :
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. Be3 d6 7. Qd2 Nf6 8. f3 O-O 9. g4 Nxd4 10. Bxd4 Be6 11. Nd5 Bxd5 12. exd5 [b]
and black has not moved his 12th move.
Whats the winning percentage of black there ? 
And can black save the game after 12. ...e5 13. dxe6 Rfe8 ?
Hoping for your best reply.
  
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Re: Interesting sequence, kindly note.
Reply #2 - 03/07/07 at 09:08:08
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I do not think h5 is wrong. This theme is approached by Andrew Martin in his book about the dragon and statistics at chessgames.com are not bad. Black just has to know what he is doing. 
Personnally, I tried it twice on the board and got in both games a clear advantage (1 won and 1 lost after a blunder in the endgame)
  
Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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Reply #1 - 03/07/07 at 09:02:35
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Hy, i am not Chris but i have a few remarks : 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. Be3 d6 7. Qd2 Nf6 8. f3 O-O 9. g4 Nxd4 10. Bxd4 Be6 11. Nd5 Bxd5 12. exd5 Qc7
1/ why 2... Nc6 allowing 3.Bb5
2/ 9... Nxd4 ?! Dearing and others thinks that 9... Be6 is more precise
3/ 11. Nd5 ?! Theoricians thinks that 11.h4 ! is stronger for white
4/ 12... Qc7 why not try your idea immediatly e5 or e6 !?
5/ I presume that the 13 white's move is h4 and after e5 very strong for white seems 14.dxe6 Re8 15.000 Rxe6 16.h5 Rc8 17.c3 and Black has not much conterplay.
  
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Interesting sequence, kindly note.
03/07/07 at 03:39:53
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Hi Chris !
The following sequence has sparkled debates : 
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. Be3 d6 7. Qd2 Nf6 8. 
f3 O-O 9. g4 Nxd4 10. Bxd4 Be6 11. Nd5 Bxd5 12. exd5 Qc7
My logic is, once this position is reached, best reply for black is e5, to strike in the center, to combat white's flank advance. Then two variations can arise.
1. dxe5, then Rfe8 is best according to me.
2. Bc3 is also bad coz of e4.
Kindly note that, analysis is solely based on this particualr position, and has nothing to do dragon.

Third imporatnt point is, I play h5 after white's f3, but people say, no one has ever tried this. But whats wrong in that ?
We all are eagerly awaiting your reply.
  
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