I dont see any white advantage after 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5.
Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8. Qd2 Nc6 9. O-O-O d5 10. Nxc6 bxc6 11. exd5 Nxd5
12. Bd4 Bxd4 13. Qxd4 Qc7 14. Qc5 Nxc3 15. Qxc3 Be6 16. h4 Rfd8 17. Bd3 h5 * or something similar but white has never the less the better pawn structure.

In the 14 Bc4 line i I think that e5 equlizes at once. After Nb6 instead Rogozenko thinks that Be2 is best move and the white is better even afer Bd3 instead or even Rhe1. He writes that in all this positions black only chanse of counter play involves the advance of the a pawn and the white can combine more ideas. He also writes that beside developing hes own attack white can place a piece on c5 and enter a better ending whit out changing the pawn structure.

Looking at Rogozenkos disc the line has not a very good reputation.
He thinks that white is better after both Qc5 and Bc4.
He seems to recommend Bc4 but does not mention e5.

Intresting variation. I set up the position agianst Fritz 10 and after Qc7 he played Bc4 when I replied e5 (looking at Fritz opeing book after the game it didnt have good statistics. Is it the best move?). Fritz then played Qd2 when I replied Be6 and after Ne4 I played Rb8 etc.

The game ended up whith that I took perepetual checks in a position where Fritz had two rooks and I had a Queen and both sides had pawns on various spots on the board.

i myself choose to play 12...Bxd4 and 13...Qc7 against the line 9.000 d5 10.exd5 Nxd5 11.Nxc6 bxc6 12.Bd4

my home analysis are cool assessments for black
maybe i missed something but for now i'm quite confident in it
and i of course disagree with 9.000 +=

I think parisestmagique just likes to spread the propaganda that white is better after 9.0-0-0, or am I wrong? 

Of course there is nothing wrong with white players believing that they are better, it sometimes leads to an overpushing of their positions.

@Adam: I think you are right, black should have decent chances.
And there were also some promising games lately after 19. ... Nf4 which "used to be" better for white.
Just search for Golubev's and Azarov's games.

Of course   

parisestmagique wrote on 03/09/07 at 09:14:55:


What does that "9.000" mean?