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Stigma God Member Offline There is a crack in everything. Posts: 3265 Joined: 11/07/06 Gender:	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #31 - 10/02/15 at 16:37:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	There's so much material on the Pirc the last few years - books by Vigus, Moskalenko and Hillarp + DVDs by Davies, Bojkov and Marin - surely approaching overkill considering it's not exactly the most popular defence? But OK, maybe there hasn't been a book really targeted to ordinary club players since Pirc Alert! (2001) Though arguably club players shouldn't play such a crazy, risky, come-and-get-me defence anyway

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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #30 - 10/02/15 at 14:53:42	Post Tools	Print Post
	MM0621 wrote on 10/02/15 at 14:50:19: GM Davies is writing this book for Everymanchess according to their publishing Schedule webpage. http://everymanchess.com/pdf/Publishing_Schedule.pdf The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies Wow, Lakdawala must be seeting

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MM0621 YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 10 Joined: 11/25/14	The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies Reply #29 - 10/02/15 at 14:50:19	Post Tools	Print Post
	GM Davies is writing this book for Everymanchess according to their publishing Schedule webpage. http://everymanchess.com/pdf/Publishing_Schedule.pdf The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies


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g3g6 YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 49 Joined: 05/24/06	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #28 - 07/13/07 at 06:01:41	Post Tools	Print Post
	OK. It's time get justice into own hands... Line 14.ab5 cb5 15.Bh6 don't offer advantage for white. If anything, 15...0-0! 16.Bg7 Kg7 17.Qg5 assess GM Roiz as +/-, because after 17…Qe6 18.Nd4! ed4 19.Qc5 Rad8 20.e5 Nd7 21.Qc7 Bd5 22.f4+/-. This is probably right, but easy 18…Qb6! (g3g6 unpublished novelty) equalize After 15.b4 is 15..Nxe4 as minimum risky move, but probaly too bad. How about 15…Ne6? Lauk-Haeusler coor 2005 continued 16.Ne5 Ne4 17.Ne4 Be5 18.Rad1 0-0-0 with evalution +=. Maybe i am litlle too old for this kind of position – black king on queen side for fist sight is everything, but not safe. Because i am missing remaining moves this game, it’s possible, that this fragment was constructed by Lauk and not played. Reason is the following: after Lauk’s 16…Nh5?! (Lauk's move, but my evalution )17.Nh5 Be5 18.Ng3 Ba1 19.Ra1 0-0 with initiative for white, which is clearly alibistic. I analyzed (and now analyze too) this position (and after 18.Nf4 or 18.Rad1 too) and i didn’t found any clear advantage for white – black is exchange down for a pawn, but position is doubleedged for both players, probably chances are equal and a long run engines evalutions ended on the 0,00 . It’s quite interesting, that Shredder like now 20.f4, which Rybka don’t like at all and prefer another fife moves, mainly 20.Qc3. I think, that better player in OTB will win this position for any side.


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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #27 - 07/10/07 at 18:54:51	Post Tools	Print Post
	ghenghisclown wrote on 07/09/07 at 21:53:07: I wonder if maybe in the line given by Bibs: Gurevich's Nxa4 is better? Any thoughts on Karadeniz - Gurevich Izmir op 2004? It's a different line. The line given above is 14. axb5, but the Gurevich game is 14. b4 Open your copy of "The Pirc in Black and White", turn to p317, and check the bottom right hand corner.

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ghenghisclown God Member Offline Pedicare Vestri Latin Posts: 1022 Location: HollyWeird Joined: 07/19/06 Gender:	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #26 - 07/09/07 at 21:53:07	Post Tools	Print Post
	I wonder if maybe in the line given by Bibs: Quote: His line versus 4 Be3 (150 attack) appears busted. Recommends e4 d6 d4 Nf6 Nc3 g6 Be3 c6 Qd2 b5 Bd3 Nbd7 Nf3 e5 h3 Bb7 de de a4 a6 Ne2 Bg7 Ng3 Qe7 00 nc5 ab cb b4 nce4 ne4 ne4 be4 be4 bc5 qb7 Gurevich's Nxa4 is better? Any thoughts on Karadeniz - Gurevich Izmir op 2004?

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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #25 - 07/08/07 at 14:41:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	Bibs wrote on 07/08/07 at 13:21:45: btw - re: Kaufman's 15 Bh6. p212+ Carnero-Ocampos right? That q v 2 xR endgame presumably what your notes about I noted Maes-Bertrem 2004. Not a high level encounter but a nice upset, and Black's piece placement of Bb7/Kc7/Qe6 keeps the Rooks out and set things up nicely for a King side pawn storm. It's the sort of long range plan that the engines won't find for you, but once I'd noted the idea, I'm happy to take Black in this line. Maes,W (2304) - Bertrem,S (2146) [B07] BEL-chT 0405 Belgium (4), 21.11.2004 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 c6 5.Qd2 b5 6.Bd3 Nbd7 7.Nf3 e5 8.dxe5 dxe5 9.h3 Bb7 10.0-0 Bg7 11.a4 a6 12.Ne2 Qe7 13.Ng3 Nc5 14.axb5 cxb5 15.Bh6 Nfxe4 16.Nxe4 Nxe4 17.Bxe4 Bxh6 18.Qxh6 Bxe4 19.Qg7 f6 20.Qxh8+ Kd7 21.Qxa8 Bxa8 22.Rxa6 Bb7 23.Raa1 Qb4 24.Rfd1+ Kc7 25.Ne1 f5 26.Ra3 Qe7 27.c3 g5 28.Nc2 Qe6 29.b4 f4 30.f3 h5 31.Ne1 g4 32.hxg4 hxg4 33.Rd2 e4 34.fxe4 Qxe4 35.Nc2 f3 36.gxf3 Qf4 37.Rf2 g3 38.Rg2 Qc1+ 0-1

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Bibs God Member Offline Posts: 2338 Joined: 10/24/06	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #24 - 07/08/07 at 13:21:45	Post Tools	Print Post
	JEH, Yes, that endgame looks to be a draw after 20 Ne5 etc. James actually gives 20 rad1, but black maybe okish anyhow. Still prefer Rybka's Qd7-b7 'idea'. Can a computer have 'an idea'? Sorry, AI not my field. stick with 'move'. Anyhow... Yes, does appear a tad counter-intuitive to put the king over there, does initially seem to be asking for trouble, but only weak if it can be got at. Not sure that is the case in said position. btw - re: Kaufman's 15 Bh6. p212+ Carnero-Ocampos right? That q v 2 xR endgame presumably what your notes about - Kaufman reckons better for white, Lauks's Informator comments indicate equal. Me? - am not good enough to judge. regards Bibs


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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #23 - 07/08/07 at 11:57:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	Bibs wrote on 07/08/07 at 09:52:01: Running with Rybka, it has the position after 18... qd7 as basically equal and prefers Qe2 to Vigus' Qe3. Well I have a suspicion that when Black is a Pawn up and with a Bishop pair and the engine is saying =, then a human in that position would have practical problems. As for James's suggestion, can Black hold the ending after 20. Nxe5 Qe6 21. Rfe1 Bxe5 22. Qxe5 Qxe5 23. Rxe5 Be6? That a pawn looks pretty weak after Re3->a3, but maybe the opposite coloured Bishops and the extra White pawn (after the a pawn drops) being backward it's drawable, and that's all Black has to prove. I quite like a defensive challenge, but I'm not going to be up to offering more insight than Rybka . I don't like its suggestion of 20. ...O-O-O as the Black King looks draughty, but I'm no computer. 21. Ra3 Rhe8 22. Re3 looks normal with an edge for White, but Black's still in there. However I reckon if I'd found myself in this position in a practical game, I'd have gone for bolstering up with 20. ...f6 21. c4 Bc6, but after Ra3, things are starting to go downhill, which demonstrates the practical problems. I've got some notes on 15. Bh6 which was recommended by Kaufmann, but that's about it. PS I reckon 18. ...Qc7 may not be more than just leading to a transposition.

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Bibs God Member Offline Posts: 2338 Joined: 10/24/06	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #22 - 07/08/07 at 09:52:01	Post Tools	Print Post
	LeeRoth. Thanks for that. That game is also included in Vigus' notes. JEH Unfortunately I dont have Informator. Was just referencing everything properly. However, Vigus notes Qd7 may give survival chances. Not sure how much is okay to include due to copyright and due to the fact that he's my mate and you should buy the book so he gets royalties cash! Running with Rybka, it has the position after 18... qd7 as basically equal and prefers Qe2 to Vigus' Qe3. Qe2 Qb7 Rfd1 and fairly believable += after qd7 which seems to deflect the white queen to an inferior (non d-file)square Qe2 NOW qb7 Rfd1 Bd5 Ne5 000 equalish according to Rajlich's baby. continuing Ra3 Re8 Re3. and its a game... This qd7 - b7 malarckey may save black's bacon in this line. A few moves back pretty unbelievable that back could go qside, but all seems ok here. qc7 will look at later. Perhaps Davies right after all... have to buy him some mushy peas to apologise for doubting him. Thoughts JEH? Any more goodies from your notebook which you may be able to share?!...


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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #21 - 07/08/07 at 09:09:46	Post Tools	Print Post
	Bibs wrote on 07/08/07 at 02:26:48: His line versus 4 Be3 (150 attack) appears busted. Yep, this a point where the overlap with Pirc Alert is a problem. 12. ...Qe7 !? was offered as a novelty back then, and it isn't taken very far. The apt student would realise that this is the point where they have to take over and do some work themselves. TN = Tested Not. I have some notes in my Pirc Alert margin which takes the line on and I've noted 18. ...Qd7, hmm, I see James has got this in his book now, and 18. ...Qc7, ha missed one , for further study. I'd still say this position is difficult due to the problems with the Black Kings' safety, but I wouldn't say busted yet. After 18. ...Qc7 where she can monitor the d file, the plan is f6 to leg it with the King and Bf8 or Rd8 to offload some bits, and I think Black is hanging on. PS, I don't read informator so I've not seen the analysis there. Does it cover these two moves? My take on Books and DVD's is that I want the GM to point me in a direction and if it interests me, I take it from there. I don't expect to find every answer!

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LeeRoth God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 1520 Joined: 10/22/05	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #20 - 07/08/07 at 04:29:55	Post Tools	Print Post
	Thanks for this info. I don't have Vigus, but for another example of 19.Rfd1, there's J.Lopez Martinez - S.Collins, EU-chT 15th, Gothenburg 2005: 1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. Be3 c6 5. Qd2 b5 6. Bd3 Nbd7 7. Nf3 e5 8. dxe5 dxe5 9. h3 Bb7 10. O-O Bg7 11. a4 a6 12. Ne2 Qe7 13. Ng3 Nc5 14. axb5 cxb5 15. b4 Ncxe4 16. Nxe4 Nxe4 17. Bxe4 Bxe4 18. Bc5 Qb7 19. Rfd1 Bf6 20. Qc3 Be7 21. Nxe5 Bxc5 22. Nd7 1-0 LeeRoth


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Bibs God Member Offline Posts: 2338 Joined: 10/24/06	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #19 - 07/08/07 at 02:26:48	Post Tools	Print Post
	His line versus 4 Be3 (150 attack) appears busted. Recommends e4 d6 d4 Nf6 Nc3 g6 Be3 c6 Qd2 b5 Bd3 Nbd7 Nf3 e5 h3 Bb7 de de a4 a6 Ne2 Bg7 Ng3 Qe7 00 nc5 ab cb b4 nce4 ne4 ne4 be4 be4 bc5 qb7 davies only gives the old Rad1. Vigus (pp 315-8) gives the game Lauk-Nouro and Lauk's analysis (informator 93) where black is near dead after Rfd1(!) Disappointing - 'the 150' has been white's most popular system in the last decade , so no adequate response to this is unfortunate. Looking through Austrian attack now. Solid, sensible systems offered. Lucidly explained and demonstrated. Impressive here. Delivery: avuncular, affable. Comes across as a trustworthy guide. Some light humour as he struggles with some difficult player and place names. Usual chessbase problem (not Davies' fault naturally ) of PC next to camera. Much of attention thus away from audience. As at my old job, camera hanging down from top of screen is better - gives impression that addressing audience even when reading from screen.
	« Last Edit: 07/08/07 at 04:11:25 by Bibs »

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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #18 - 07/07/07 at 12:02:15	Post Tools	Print Post
	ghenghisclown wrote on 07/07/07 at 03:34:45: Wow wonderful stuff man, could we get you to cough up some lines...maybe? 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.h3 0-0 6.Be3 b6 7. e5 Nfd7 8. e6 fe 9. Bc4 (hoping Black falls for 9. ...d5? 10. Nxd5) Nf6 10. d5 c6! (and thank White for the pawn and the center). So Dzindzi improves with 9. h4 Nf6 10. h5 Nxh5 11. Bd3 "With a Strong attack" - Dzindzi, "a better version for White than ... with a4/a6 included" - Vigus. If you are going to play the Pirc, you have to be happy to play this sort of thing as Black. You have to be ready to face this sort of gung ho stuff in the Austrian (with an early e5 and h4) too. Now after 11. Bd3, my first thought was 11. ...c5 to hit back the center, but after 12. Rxh5! things hot up. So 11. ...Nf4 improves to get rid of some attacking artillery and I reckon it's game on. If nothing else, you're going to get a workout for your defensive and calculation skills and it seems more fun than trying to eek out a draw in the Berlin Wall or Petroff, whatever the result. Since 6. ...a6/b6 seems ok (see Perelshteyn-Benjamin 2003 covered in the Vigus book - I love the way Benjamin's pawns are arrayed ) and 6. ...a6/Nc6 (suggested on the Davies DVD) is another option, I don't see Black has anything great to fear.

	Those who want to go by my perverse footsteps play such pawn structure with fuzzy atypical still strategic orientations Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, stuck in the middlegame with you
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Bibs God Member Offline Posts: 2338 Joined: 10/24/06	Re: Nigel Davies Pirc DVD Reply #17 - 07/07/07 at 09:07:47	Post Tools	Print Post
	This is all covered in some depth in Vigus' book. I remember looking at this with James via email correspondence while he was writing, so am fairly confident in the stuff contained therein, and feel that black is fine. was some earlier stuff on this forum (a Geoff Strayer i think asked some pertinent qs if I remember correctly) The Dzinzi stuff dangerous for the unprepared, as with any route one approach, though with a little prep not too problematic　imho. Dzinzi appears to have a recurring knack of not including the most challenging responses.　 Have bought the davies DVD but not got around to watching yet... rgds Bibs


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