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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #21 - 11/08/07 at 12:26:41
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Well, I follow Chesscafe critic for a long time, and I find them very balanced in relation to many others, but there are other places to find independent critics who are not trying to sell anything. In Amazon, the critic is from the buyers and like Markovic correctly said, we can find very bad ones, but is always possible to gain some experience buying books acording to critics and separate the good from the bad ones. John Watson shows are another good way.
  

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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #20 - 11/08/07 at 01:11:24
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Mortal Games wrote on 11/07/07 at 12:18:58:
The Chesscafe critic for "Play the Grunfeld" is out! Of course it is a good book like many others.


They seem to like a lot of books on Chesscafé! One might get the idea that they are really trying to sell them!
  
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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #19 - 11/08/07 at 01:02:54
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Poll is more nonsense from Gambit. Perhaps best if such folly kept within suitable cordoned-off areas - appropriate thread, or better still, his school chess club.

Someone pls remove the infection.

Grunfeld - yeah, appears a fair book. Enthusiastic, appears throrough from what I am able to determine (pinch of salt required there).
Cant say more as 1) not an expert and 2) havent eaten brekkie yet.

  
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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #18 - 11/08/07 at 00:06:48
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Why is this poll on this thread?

Question: Which gambit is best after 1 d4 e5 ?
  

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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #17 - 11/07/07 at 15:59:04
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My concern is not the choice of opening just the fact that the anti Bc4 exchange lines aren't that good.

Shirov still seems to be championing Bg4 - he won v Belyavsky the other day and in his Candidates match v Aronian neutralised the novelty Topalov sprang on him ! Nothing wrong with the main line.


Interesting about Shirov. If you read Sakaev, he comes pretty close to "+=" in the exchange sac, pawn sac, and Seville variations, all three.  I don't know if he's right, but you can readily see why Dembo didn't want to battle on so wide a field as that, in such a short book.  But most people these days are playing ...Bd7, her recommendation, aren't they?
  

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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #16 - 11/07/07 at 13:40:46
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My concern is not the choice of opening just the fact that the anti Bc4 exchange lines aren't that good.

Shirov still seems to be championing Bg4 - he won v Belyavsky the other day and in his Candidates match v Aronian neutralised the novelty Topalov sprang on him ! Nothing wrong with the main line.
  
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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #15 - 11/07/07 at 13:40:19
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Mortal Games wrote on 11/07/07 at 12:18:58:
The Chesscafe critic for "Play the Grunfeld" is out! Of course it is a good book like many others. This book and "Understanding the Grunfeld" by Rowson can carry any player a good distance in mastering the opening.  Wink


My review of it is on amazon.com.  I posted it mostly to counterract a bad review that some idiot put there.  It's not a beginner's book, but it's not a bad book either.  The best Gruenfeld book of which I know is Sakaev's on 7.Bc4.  Leaving aside its excellence as a theoretical work, there is a most amusing picture of its author on the back cover.
  

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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #14 - 11/07/07 at 12:18:58
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The Chesscafe critic for "Play the Grunfeld" is out! Of course it is a good book like many others. This book and "Understanding the Grunfeld" by Rowson can carry any player a good distance in mastering the opening.  Wink
  

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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #13 - 08/25/07 at 11:14:57
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I was quite enjoying this book as well but I got waylaid by Vera's book on the Meran (as you can tell, I'm very much undecided in my defence to 1.d4  Embarrassed )- however, I used to play the Grunfeld rather casually and thought this would be a good way to try to get to grips with the opening properly. I didn't realise 7.Bc4 had become so popular, and I found that neither of those lines you mention which Yelena gives coverage of are very pleasant for Black. 

I like the enthusiasm she imparts with the book, though, and I was glad she recommended 9...b6 in the 8.Rb1 Exchange line, as that's what I always used to play on the rare occasions my games followed theory that far (my online opponents seemed usually to avoid the big mainlines, or simply not know them). I still don't know that 7...Nc6 versus the Russian System (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 0-0 7.e4) feels comfortable for black, although I remember that it was also Rowson's recommendation in his Grunfeld book.  I guess a lot of the problem for me is finding the right opening and positions that I feel happy with, rather than the quality of the coverage in the book, which I'm sure is good.    

@Inn2 - as a Semi Slav player yourself and someone who has obviously also grabbed a look at this Grunfeld book I'd like to ask you a 'comparison' question about the two openings - I'll PM you to avoid hijacking this thread, although it would be nice if a moderator could remove the odd 'Poll' that has attached itself to this thread for those who do want to continue reading it.....?
  
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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #12 - 08/10/07 at 17:50:40
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just had a quick look at this book today.
overall my impression of Dembo's work is favourable, with the exception of the 7. Bc4 chapter where i feel its slightly suspicious (though admittedly i am biased to White here!)
After 7. Bc4, Dembo gives two options for black: 
(i) the safer but theoretically volatile 10... Bd7 11. Rb1 Qc7 12. Bf4 Qc8 where the important 13. Rc1 (as in recent Van Wely-Svidler game) is barely covered, if you have worked through Mikhalevski's survey in yearbook 83 you will for sure feel this part of the book is lacking.
(ii) the riskier option is Svidler's gambit 10... Na5 11. Bd3 b6 12. Rc1 e5!? 13. dxc5 (Topalov-Svidler Linares 2006, 1-0), she suggests some interesting nuances for black here but i'm quite sure most players will remain skeptical!
i would also wish for more details on certain sub lines like 5. Bd2/8. Bb5!? but overall this is a good effort.
  
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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #11 - 06/13/07 at 09:26:38
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Hello,

Yelena recommends playing the KID or Grunfeld to her students, so has more experience in these lines than might think. I have her privately produced books on the middle game, which are of a very high standard, particularly the first book. Also have been shown some nice ideas for my opening Rep. (Other people who I know are coached by Yelena have been impressed with the analysis they have got).
                            This of course does not guarante that the Grunfeld book will be good, but hopefully people will be pleasantly suprised.

Bye John S

  
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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #10 - 05/25/07 at 21:04:59
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Well they didn't tout Greet as a renowned expert.
  
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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #9 - 05/25/07 at 20:36:16
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This point is clear. Greet did not call himself (nor did the publisher) an expert on the Qe2-Ruy Lopez, quite the contrary.
  

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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #8 - 05/25/07 at 11:23:10
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I havent judged the book yet, but I won't call someone who:
  • has only played the grunfeld, at submaster level for 2.5 years; (showing both limited understanding and theoretical knowledge)

  • had a rather dismal score with it (well below 50%);

  • hasnt played the grunfeld in the last 3.5 years

"a renowned expert".

until the book itself proves me wrong. Angry
  
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Re: Play the Grunfeld - Yelena Dembo
Reply #7 - 05/25/07 at 09:21:18
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I wonder what the expectations were on Greet's book on the Ruy Lopez. I wouldn't judge a book before it has been published.
  

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