cynima wrote on 04/18/13 at 18:51:54:


Well perhaps another fifth move for black is better!

Bronznik in his Chigorin book mentions a few options.

Thanks for this! I'm a bit confused now about the 9 ...Re8 10 0-0-0 line, though. [i]Does[/i] Vigorito give 10 ...e5 as well as, or instead of, 10 ...Qe7, and if so [i]is[/i] 11 h3 his answer to it? (11 ...Ne4!? here indeed looks interesting!?)

[quote]Yeah, well += doesn't really mean anything. += means that the position is easier to play as White, or optically White looks a little better. That said, I would like to compare Vigorito's thoughts [on the Zurich] to Palliser's, just to see where the difference lies. What line does he give? [/quote]

I haven't got Vigorito, but I believe what he gives is 5 Qc2 d6 6 Bg5 h6 7 Bd2 0-0 (7 ...e5 8 a3!, Palliser) 8 a3 Bc3 9 Bc3 and now:

I  9 ...Qe7 10 e4! (P. gives only 10 e3, saying 10 ...e5 and 10 ...a5 are then both adequate for Black) 11 d5

II 9 ...Re8 10 0-0-0! Qe7 11 h3! (P. gives only 11 e3 e5) e5 12 de (also 12 d5!?) de 13 e3.

You may like, TonyRo, to take a look at this thread -- 

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1217940875/0

-- in particular replies 6 and 20! Any comments on this line (9 ...a5, unmentioned by Palliser) for Black (anyone)? I'm a bit surprised it hasn't yet come under the Forum microscope ...

Why would 1. e4 Nc6 belong to the DD Section? Now the Chigorin, that's a different story.

Hello, 

I'm looking for more Hecht-Reefschalger sources and found this thread.
is it worthwhile to buy the book just for the H-R?

I don't really care about the other chapters (though the English lines might be useful)

The Zurich Variation is a definite += if White knows the theory. However, most White players don't have Vigorito's "Challenging the Nimzo-Indian" (and thus don't know the theory very well), so in practice there is nothing wrong with the Zurich.

Also, it is worth nothing that many 1.d4 players will not have the 4.Qc2 Nimzo in their repertoire, meaning that transposing to the Zurich will place them in unfamiliar territory (or they will deviate and lose the chance at an advantage).

linksspringer wrote on 07/25/08 at 13:09:29:


Ooops, excuse me for being so ignorant.

Hmm someone said that it leads to a Nimzo line with two (!!) tempos down for black. In that case that can't be good and I can understand if people don't play it for this reason, unless ofcourse that is not the case.

Sorry in advance for posting this, I do not have time to read through the whole thread at the moment:

Which do people consider to be better 1...Nc6 or 1...Nf6, 2...Nc6 as in the Tango?

I'm thinking about playing the Tango but I've heard that it can lead to an inferior Nimzo-Indian. Is this correct?

If you can convince me I might even start playing 1...Nc6