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Re: Sveshnikov - Advance French texts I and II
Reply #39 - 09/28/09 at 09:53:55
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I also like authors who aren't afraid to have an opinion. Sveshnikov's articles in NiC yearbooks have been great. Shereshevsky's "Soviet Chess Conveyor" also comes to mind. I like Moskalenko's articles in NiC yearbooks (4.Qc2 vs Benkö in the recent volume was already a pet line for me!) and have thought about getting his book on the French. I'm also curious about Bogdanov. His books has been very well received and he has been the trainer of Moskalenko according to the Gambit website.
  
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Re: Sveshnikov - Advance French texts I and II
Reply #38 - 09/28/09 at 03:21:10
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Keano wrote on 09/23/09 at 14:55:47:

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Not that I mind this as I said its a great book and I prefer opinionated stuff than the usual dross.



Hear, Hear, Keano!  Cool

In fact, I rather preferred your original statement to your emended one for the same reason.
  
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Re: Sveshnikov - Advance French texts I and II
Reply #37 - 09/23/09 at 14:55:47
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I have the book and I think its great, but offhand I cant think of any lines where he even thinks Black is worse, they have to exist of course so I'll re-check. I suppose I should re-word my sentence like this:
Moskalenko is in general very optimistic for Black in his assesments.

Not that I mind this as I said its a great book and I prefer opinionated stuff than the usual dross.
  
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Reply #36 - 09/23/09 at 09:14:25
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Keano wrote on 09/23/09 at 07:53:06:
As regards the French Sveshnikov and Moskalenko are polar opposites - Sveshnikov thinks everything is good for White, and Moskalenko thinks everything is good for Black!


That's simply not the case concerning Moskalenko's book, because that book does not have the approach to deliver general statements about the french (with the exception of the french being "flexible"). And he does not conceal that several positons are not easy to play for black.

While more or less every line given by Sveshnikov in the part with the ECO-Tables ends with a += (at least) if white plays the best moves.
  
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Reply #35 - 09/23/09 at 07:53:06
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As regards the French Sveshnikov and Moskalenko are polar opposites - Sveshnikov thinks everything is good for White, and Moskalenko thinks everything is good for Black!
  
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Reply #34 - 09/23/09 at 07:47:31
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Concerning Sveshnikovs Statements, well ... he simply is overoptimistic concerning white's Chances IMHO. Its very interesting to read Moskalenkos statements about the advance and Sveshnikovs success-rate in his last book. He claims that its not the position that is better but Sveshnikovs understanding of the positions. He played 2 games vs Sveshnikov and won both. 
I personally never thought the advance is in any way a critical variation in the french. More or less everything is playable for black in the advance, which IMHO indicates that this varitation is not the biggest problem for a french devotee.

Nonetheless the books are very interesting, as many "Tabiyas" are explained. Many explanations are given that may help players above the "club-level" (whatever that is) too.
  
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Reply #33 - 09/13/09 at 12:09:11
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Daniel wrote on 09/12/09 at 23:12:27:
ArKheiN wrote on 09/12/09 at 20:48:54:
It exists in french since 2006 and in one volume. I just love it. Some month ago, his volume against the sicilian came too in french.


"The Sicilian Pelikan" book from the 80s or a new one?


This one:
Gagner contre la Défense Sicilienne

http://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_ss?__mk_fr_FR=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Dst...

Anyone read it?
(moving to sicilian section)
  
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Re: Sveshnikov - Advance French texts I and II
Reply #32 - 09/12/09 at 23:12:27
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ArKheiN wrote on 09/12/09 at 20:48:54:
It exists in french since 2006 and in one volume. I just love it. Some month ago, his volume against the sicilian came too in french.


"The Sicilian Pelikan" book from the 80s or a new one?
  
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Reply #31 - 09/12/09 at 20:48:54
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It exists in french since 2006 and in one volume. I just love it. Some month ago, his volume against the sicilian came too in french.
  
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Reply #30 - 09/12/09 at 16:23:57
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6.a3 is recommended only after 5...Qb6 while after 5...Bd7 he advocates 6.Be2.
  
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Reply #29 - 09/12/09 at 16:15:48
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Can someone who owns the books explain which specific line of Advance French does Sveshnikov advocate in the books ? I am considering to buy the books but only if they are in tune with the line I am employing. (that is 6.a3)
By the way, I wish there were only one book instead of two. After all they are not much thick and could have been produced in one volume. *sigh*
  
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Reply #28 - 07/12/09 at 23:39:30
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Thanks for posting your opinion. After speaking with a team mate, who turned out to have the Sweshnikov books, I've decided to skip the 2nd and get Pedersen instead. Mostly because it's cheap. All 3 books are on sale at Niggemann.

Moskalenko's book is certainly interesting, but I'm not playing the French with black ATM. After 20 years on and off I needed something else. I was oversaturated, which resulted in robotic play.
  
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Re: Sveshnikov - Advance French texts I and II
Reply #27 - 07/10/09 at 12:16:39
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Gorath wrote on 07/10/09 at 10:13:21:
Arise!

Two years later ... I understand the first book with the plans is a must buy. But is it still worth getting the 2nd too, or is it too outdated now? I'm not too fond of ECO style tables.
Is it confirmed that the English books are updated relative to the German editions?



What's the verdict on Pedersen's French Advance and other lines, from today's perspective?

Is there anything better or more up-to-date on the advance?


I am not aware of anything more recent. 

The English editions (Olms) are definitely the best and slightly updated compared to the German and other editions (although the Spanish is also good and in one volume is handier for taking to tournaments). Volume 2 contains further annotated games as well as the ECO tables. I would recommend getting both volumes and then bringing yourself up to date via some of the available sources: TWIC, Informator, Chessbase, NIC and Chess Publishing of course.

Pedersen has some original ideas and assessments, but he does not appear to be a 3 e5 specialist, unlike Sveshnikov who has unrivalled experience with it.

From the black point of view, Moskalenko's book is very rich in ideas although not a systematic treatment.
  
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Re: Sveshnikov - Advance French texts I and II
Reply #26 - 07/10/09 at 10:13:21
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Arise!

Two years later ... I understand the first book with the plans is a must buy. But is it still worth getting the 2nd too, or is it too outdated now? I'm not too fond of ECO style tables.
Is it confirmed that the English books are updated relative to the German editions?



What's the verdict on Pedersen's French Advance and other lines, from today's perspective?

Is there anything better or more up-to-date on the advance?
  
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Re: Sveshnikov - Advance French texts I and II
Reply #25 - 09/16/07 at 15:35:03
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/16/07 at 08:07:05:
Paddy, 

Your last message gave me too much information.

I am only going to get one version.  I read English better than I read Spanish, but if the four Shirov games are good enough I don't mind slogging through Spanish.  Did Shirov annotate these?

For someone who can only buy one book, which would you recommend, the English edition with slightly more updated info or the Spanish edition with four extra games by Shirov? 


Hmm, I guess on balance I'd say go for the English edition (in two volumes) - Olms books are always nice to use and their English edition is definitely a bit more up to date than any of the editions in other languages..
  
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