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Re: KID Larsen
Reply #6 - 08/30/07 at 05:57:01
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So, I guessed right then!  Smiley
  
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Reply #5 - 08/30/07 at 01:00:48
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Err... I meant 8.Bg5 of course.  White would love to play 8.B(x)g4!
  
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Reply #4 - 08/29/07 at 20:16:03
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Thanks for your reply Smyslov_Fan,

I have been using 5.Be2 myself when playing 1.d4.

However these days I play 1.Nf3 with a repertoire similar to Kramnik/Khalifman.
My games typically goes 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.d4 0-0 and now - the move I wanted to discuss - 6.Be3

That rules out the cute varition given by u using Be2/Be3(both before Nf3) against c5  Sad
And that may also explain that I am not afraid playing the white side of the Maroczy....

Regarding "7.Nf3 Ng4?! 8.Bg4 Nc6?! 9.d5 is nothing to worry about anyway"
You may be right.
I have to look more into the details here. For sure white isnt in big problems but, my quick analysis didnt show anything convincing after 10..Nd4.
  
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Re: KID Larsen
Reply #3 - 08/29/07 at 13:03:04
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BTW: If all else fails, the tranposition to Maroczy lines should leave White comfortable in practice regardless of whether theory says that Black can equalise in this particular line.
  
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Re: KID Larsen
Reply #2 - 08/29/07 at 13:00:53
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Here's a possible move-order nuance that may help, Viking:

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Be2! 0-0 and if you suspect your opponent may play 6...c5, play 6.Be3.  Otherwise, 7.Nf3 Ng4?! 8.Bg4 Nc6?! 9.d5 is nothing to worry about anyway.


The received wisdom is that 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be3 c5 is premature because of 7.cd5 Qa5!? 8.Qa4 Qa4 9.Na4 Ne4 10.Bd3 Nc5 11.Nc5 dc5 12.0-0-0!? Nd7 13.h4

This is a tricky line, especially in blitz.  But I think White can get a fairly decent advantage with fairly natural moves.

Of course, 6.Be3!? may be premature.  I prefer 6.Be2 for a number of reasons, the most important is that it is much more flexible.   I hope this helps.
  
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Re: KID Larsen
Reply #1 - 08/29/07 at 06:04:02
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Right now I am in particular interested in how white best should meet 6..c5!? (which is not mentioned in Mednis book).

A transposition to Maroczy was at first what I was hoping for - with something like 7.Be2 cxd4 8.Nxd4
But then maybe 7..Ng4 8.Bg5 Nc6 could be a possibility?
  
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KID Larsen
08/29/07 at 05:54:43
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Mednis "Practical endgame tips" made me interested in the Larsen variation of the KID. It goes:

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be3!?

It is a variation, as I see it, with an aim to get an improved(!?) exchange variation after 6..e5 7.dxe5. Ok- white may not get much of an opening advantage - but the opening has its subtleties.

Using this moveorder I also have the possibility to change my mind and play what I use to play - the gligoric after 6..e5 7.Be2

However KID books dont seam to even mention the larsen variation. Why is that?
  
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