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Re: 1e4 c5 2 c3 e5
Reply #5 - 09/11/07 at 16:46:56
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Forgive me for posting this game, which I played in 1994.  At the time I thought that 7. d4 might be a novelty, but later I saw a game published somewhere where Susan Lalic had played it earlier.  No doubt Black should play 7...d6; Sveshnikov in his monograph gives that as leading to an equal or unclear position, which I find rather hard to believe.


1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 e5 4. Bc4 Qc7 5. 0-0 Nf6 6. Re1 Be7 7. d4 cd 8. cd Nxd4 9. Nxd4 Qxc4 10. Nf5 Bf8 11. Nc3 g6 12. Bg5 Qa6 13. Ne3 Bg7 14. Ncd5 Nxd5 15. Nxd5 Qd6 16. Nf6+ Ke7 17. Ng8+ 1-0
  
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Re: 1e4 c5 2 c3 e5
Reply #4 - 09/11/07 at 14:21:18
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Paddy wrote on 09/11/07 at 10:07:13:
Bibs wrote on 09/10/07 at 16:11:32:
Hi,

Looking for detailed analysis on this.

Recommended by Silman in old book "Winning with the Sicilian defence" (1991). See Filipovic played this and scanned through his games.
Only very brief notes in old ebook (2005), no mention in past posts here(I did check).

I have Collins', Harley's c3 books but not too much therein. Harley dated, Collins too brief (not necessarily his fault - the nature of the Chess Explained 25 game, just over 100 page beast)

Any detailed info available that anyone knows of?  Any language is fine!

thank you in advance for any suggestions,

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The initial enthusiasm for 2...e5 faded fast and there does not seem to have been much recent interest in it, practically or theoretically.

The most recent books on 2 c3 are Sveshnikov's two volumes - they have appeared in Russian and even Italian (pub. Caissa Italia). Volume 1 has been translated into English but is held up at the publishers for some reason. Here's what he says about 2...e5.

"The move 2...e5?!, leading to the creation of a Ruy Lopez type of pawn structure, does not equalise either, owing to the obvious weakening of the d5 square. Modern theory has not actually come to a definite conclusion about this line yet."

His recommendation for White is: 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.Bc4 Qc7 (4...d6?! 5.d4) 5.0-0 Nf6  6.Ng5 Nd8 7.f4.

The Chessbase CD by Rogozenko is probably the best electronic source.


What's the verdict on Rogozenko's Alapin cd, and do those that have it consider it any good?

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Reply #3 - 09/11/07 at 12:50:45
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Thankyou both for that. Will have a look. Remember being surprised a tad by 2..e5 about ten years ago and didnt reply incisively enough. Picking up old Silman book piqued my interest again.

Thanks for the references,

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Re: 1e4 c5 2 c3 e5
Reply #2 - 09/11/07 at 10:07:13
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Bibs wrote on 09/10/07 at 16:11:32:
Hi,

Looking for detailed analysis on this.

Recommended by Silman in old book "Winning with the Sicilian defence" (1991). See Filipovic played this and scanned through his games.
Only very brief notes in old ebook (2005), no mention in past posts here(I did check).

I have Collins', Harley's c3 books but not too much therein. Harley dated, Collins too brief (not necessarily his fault - the nature of the Chess Explained 25 game, just over 100 page beast)

Any detailed info available that anyone knows of?  Any language is fine!

thank you in advance for any suggestions,

Bibs



The initial enthusiasm for 2...e5 faded fast and there does not seem to have been much recent interest in it, practically or theoretically.

The most recent books on 2 c3 are Sveshnikov's two volumes - they have appeared in Russian and even Italian (pub. Caissa Italia). Volume 1 has been translated into English but is held up at the publishers for some reason. Here's what he says about 2...e5.

"The move 2...e5?!, leading to the creation of a Ruy Lopez type of pawn structure, does not equalise either, owing to the obvious weakening of the d5 square. Modern theory has not actually come to a definite conclusion about this line yet."

His recommendation for White is: 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.Bc4 Qc7 (4...d6?! 5.d4) 5.0-0 Nf6  6.Ng5 Nd8 7.f4.

The Chessbase CD by Rogozenko is probably the best electronic source.
  
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Re: 1e4 c5 2 c3 e5
Reply #1 - 09/10/07 at 17:04:12
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Well, Sveshnikov's B22 monograph has 4 columns and 24 notes on it -- which I'm guessing is the most info I've ever seen on it in one place -- but is from 1997.
  
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09/10/07 at 16:11:32
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Hi,

Looking for detailed analysis on this.

Recommended by Silman in old book "Winning with the Sicilian defence" (1991). See Filipovic played this and scanned through his games.
Only very brief notes in old ebook (2005), no mention in past posts here(I did check).

I have Collins', Harley's c3 books but not too much therein. Harley dated, Collins too brief (not necessarily his fault - the nature of the Chess Explained 25 game, just over 100 page beast)

Any detailed info available that anyone knows of?  Any language is fine!

thank you in advance for any suggestions,


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