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Re: Philidor - Antoshin 2
Reply #2 - 11/12/07 at 09:28:15
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This happens to be a line I recently investigated, so here is my verdict on the Vallejo line, all disagreements heartily welcome! :

1) Instead of 13....Nxe3 there is 13...Bxd4 14.Qxd4 Nc6 15.Qxd5+ Be6 but then 16.Qe4!! leads to big advantage to White in all lines. (Instead the natural 16.Qxd8 leads to trouble for White in my opinion)

2) The expert Christian Seel (apologies if I spelt the name wrong) has played instead of 11...Bc5 the order 11...Nc6! - do a search for the game and from what I recall I found it tough to come up with improvements for WHite - Black can equalize comfortably.

3) I finally came to the conclusion that while the whole 8.Bf4 line is fascinating, the simple 8.Bg2 as favoured by shirov and others is a safe way to cause Black troubles equalizing.

  
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Re: Philidor - Antoshin 2
Reply #1 - 11/11/07 at 19:22:50
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Interesting game!
First of all I think white can play 15.Qe4 (with ideas of Qh7, Bd3,...)
What I find really astonishing is the manouver with Bc1 and next move to e3 - but immediatly Be3 runs into c5! After black bishop moves to c5 things are different.
Well.... its a 2650-guy Wink
  
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Philidor - Antoshin 2
10/04/07 at 14:18:18
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Hi,
in search of something sharp and good against the dreaded Antoshin I first found this useful thread:
http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1158040192/15

Then I found the following fascinating game of Vallejo Pons:

[White "Vallejo Pons,F"]
[Black "Leon Hoyos,M"]
[WhiteElo "2650"]
[BlackElo "2428"]
[ECO "B07"]

1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 e5 4. Nge2 Be7 5. g3 exd4 6. Nxd4 d5 7. e5 Ng4 8. Bf4 g5 9. e6 h5 10. exf7+ Kxf7 11. Bc1 Bc5 12. Be3 Re8 13. Qd2 Nxe3 14. fxe3 Nc6 15. O-O-O Kg7 16. Bb5 Bg4 17. Rdf1
Qd6 18. Na4 Re5 19. Bxc6 bxc6 20. Nxc5 Qxc5 21. h3 Bd7 22. g4 Rae8 23. gxh5 Rxe3 24. h6+ Kh8 25. b4 Qd6 26. Rf7 a5 27. Nf3 Qxb4 28. Qxb4 axb4 29. Nxg5 R3e5 30. Rh7+ Kg8 31. Rg7+ 1-0

It surely is funny to see a naked king after 15 moves, but what happens if black plays 13...Bxd4 14.Qxd4 Nc6!?

After 15.Qxd5+ Be6 white must trade queens and I don´t like the white side any more. Any suggestions?

Regards, Lou

  

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