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Re: Antipathy of 1. d4 Players Towards KID
Reply #43 - 11/13/07 at 04:49:53
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Keene Smiley.  Didn't Tony Miles (or someone clever) say that "We have no Grandmasters weaker than Raymond Keene?"
  
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Reply #42 - 11/13/07 at 04:22:39
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I'd rather be a low rated GM than a highly rated anything else in chess.  Except perhaps World Champion. Tongue
  
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Reply #41 - 11/12/07 at 23:08:03
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McDonald.

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Re: Antipathy of 1. d4 Players Towards KID
Reply #40 - 11/12/07 at 20:58:57
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Alias wrote on 11/12/07 at 15:47:44:
Uberdecker wrote on 11/12/07 at 15:47:03:
Murey ?


Westerinen.

http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.phtml?event=500020


Keep going

http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.phtml?event=4104307

Hmm, I wonder who the lowest rated GM is?
  

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Uberdecker wrote on 11/12/07 at 15:47:03:
Murey ?


Westerinen.

http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.phtml?event=500020
  

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Murey ?
  
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Re: Antipathy of 1. d4 Players Towards KID
Reply #37 - 11/12/07 at 13:19:27
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Matemax wrote on 11/12/07 at 12:33:24:
Bibs wrote on 11/12/07 at 05:54:38:
Presumably super-gm (anyone worth their salt, regularly above 2650 I guess).

In contrast to substandard GMs, who inhabit the waters below 2500, below 2450 in extreme cases.


I once played a 2390-GM  -  how do you call him then? Grin


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Reply #36 - 11/12/07 at 12:33:24
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Bibs wrote on 11/12/07 at 05:54:38:
Presumably super-gm (anyone worth their salt, regularly above 2650 I guess).

In contrast to substandard GMs, who inhabit the waters below 2500, below 2450 in extreme cases.


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Reply #35 - 11/12/07 at 06:27:21
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Bibs wrote on 11/12/07 at 05:54:38:
Presumably super-gm (anyone worth their salt, regularly above 2650 I guess).

In contrast to substandard GMs, who inhabit the waters below 2500, below 2450 in extreme cases.


I wonder which group Kalle99 has placed Gallagher in  Wink

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Reply #34 - 11/12/07 at 05:54:38
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Presumably super-gm (anyone worth their salt, regularly above 2650 I guess).

In contrast to substandard GMs, who inhabit the waters below 2500, below 2450 in extreme cases.
  
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Reply #33 - 11/12/07 at 03:48:17
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kalle99 wrote on 11/12/07 at 00:30:20:
VERY few of us will become a S-GM ....so come on fighting with the Kings Indian !!


I think you mean come out fighting, and what's an S-GM?

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VERY few of us will become a S-GM ....so come on fighting with the Kings Indian !!





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Reply #31 - 11/11/07 at 19:24:02
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Maybe Gallagher should have tried 28...h4, which appears to be satisfactory for Black.
  

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Re: Antipathy of 1. d4 Players Towards KID
Reply #30 - 11/11/07 at 16:52:34
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lnn2 wrote on 11/11/07 at 16:40:33:
winawer77 wrote on 10/10/07 at 13:37:09:
I would think that the Fianchetto lines would be the most unpleasant (psychologically at least) for Black to meet as White has no targets for Black to attack and has a safe king. Yet these are the only lines I have never played. I have always played the Classical lines with White, although it has taken many years (and defeats) to turn this into a positive score.

Wouldn't mind taking up the Fianchetto lines, anyone recommend a good book? The only one I'm aware of is Ljangava's Gambit book.


Janjgava's is actually fairly decent, it is not fantastic, but it's definitely a must-buy as its the only recent source, and it is not so bad.

Ignore Gallagher's (or Martin's?!) very dismissive review on the Chesspub site. i suspect Gallagher is just plain scared of people taking up the fianchetto. Janjgava definitely gets at least 3 stars out of 5 for me. The lack of verbal explanations shouldn't bother you, from what i read of your other posts, it seems you are strong enough to assess positions for yourself.

Incidentally a Janjgava suggestion was played a few days ago at ETC, and guess who was the victim?!

A Delchev (2613)-Jo Gallagher (2497),
European Team Chess Championships, Crete GRE, 2007.11.04

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 O-O 5. Nc3 d6 6. Nf3 Nbd7 7. O-O e5 8.
h3 exd4 9. Nxd4 Re8 10. e4 a6 11. Re1 Rb8 12. Rb1 Ne5 13. b3 c5 14. Nc2 Be6
15. f4 Nc6 16. Bb2!? (suggested by Janjgava)  h5 17. Nd5 Nh7 18. Bxg7 Kxg7 19. Qd2 b5 20. b4 Nxb4 21. Ncxb4 cxb4 22. Qxb4 bxc4 23. Qxc4 Nf6 24. Qxa6 Bxd5 25. exd5 Ra8 26. Qc4
Rxe1+ 27. Rxe1 Qb6+ 28. Kh2 Ra3 29. Re2 Qa7 30. f5 g5 31. Qc1 Kh6 32. Qb2
Kg7 33. Qd2 Kh6 34. h4 Ng4+ 35. Kh3 Ne3 36. hxg5+ Kxg5 37. Qb4 Nxf5 38.
Qf4+ Kg6 39. Be4 Qd7 40. Rf2 1-0

Looks easy doesn't it.   Wink


Incredible that Gallagher still persists with this ugly line.

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Re: Antipathy of 1. d4 Players Towards KID
Reply #29 - 11/11/07 at 16:40:33
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winawer77 wrote on 10/10/07 at 13:37:09:
I would think that the Fianchetto lines would be the most unpleasant (psychologically at least) for Black to meet as White has no targets for Black to attack and has a safe king. Yet these are the only lines I have never played. I have always played the Classical lines with White, although it has taken many years (and defeats) to turn this into a positive score.

Wouldn't mind taking up the Fianchetto lines, anyone recommend a good book? The only one I'm aware of is Ljangava's Gambit book.


Janjgava's is actually fairly decent, it is not fantastic, but it's definitely a must-buy as its the only recent source, and it is not so bad.

Ignore Gallagher's (or Martin's?!) very dismissive review on the Chesspub site. i suspect Gallagher is just plain scared of people taking up the fianchetto. Janjgava definitely gets at least 3 stars out of 5 for me. The lack of verbal explanations in the book shouldn't bother you, from what i read of your other posts, it seems you are strong enough to assess positions for yourself.

Incidentally a Janjgava suggestion was played a few days ago at ETC, and guess who was the victim?!

A Delchev (2613)-Jo Gallagher (2497),
European Team Chess Championships, Crete GRE, 2007.11.04

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 O-O 5. Nc3 d6 6. Nf3 Nbd7 7. O-O e5 8.
h3 exd4 9. Nxd4 Re8 10. e4 a6 11. Re1 Rb8 12. Rb1 Ne5 13. b3 c5 14. Nc2 Be6
15. f4 Nc6 16. Bb2!? (suggested by Janjgava)  h5 17. Nd5 Nh7 18. Bxg7 Kxg7 19. Qd2 b5 20. b4 Nxb4 21. Ncxb4 cxb4 22. Qxb4 bxc4 23. Qxc4 Nf6 24. Qxa6 Bxd5 25. exd5 Ra8 26. Qc4
Rxe1+ 27. Rxe1 Qb6+ 28. Kh2 Ra3 29. Re2 Qa7 30. f5 g5 31. Qc1 Kh6 32. Qb2
Kg7 33. Qd2 Kh6 34. h4 Ng4+ 35. Kh3 Ne3 36. hxg5+ Kxg5 37. Qb4 Nxf5 38.
Qf4+ Kg6 39. Be4 Qd7 40. Rf2 1-0

Looks easy doesn't it.   Wink
  
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