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Re: Breyer
Reply #48 - 10/12/19 at 23:07:11
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Zherebukh-Caruana
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1870173

A bit from Victor Mikhalevski in Chess Publishing:  "Here, in the diagram position after 20.Bg5, Caruana tried to surprise his opponent with the extremely rare 20...Bg7, instead of the common 20...Be7. However, the former Ukrainian GM was up to the task and outplayed one of the top players in the world in nice style. A great positional achievement from Zherebukh! This game may serve as a model game, proving 20...Bg7 to be dubious. Black should play 20...Be7, as he did on many previous occasions."

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Reply #47 - 10/12/19 at 22:35:09
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I am not an expert, but I have the feeling, that the Breyer system is past its prime. I played it many years ago as a kid/teenager - I guess mostly because I felt really smart explaining the other kids, why the knight is so much better placed on b8 than on c6- but I never learned theory and there where some set-ups for white, when I never understood, what to do with black and so I stopped playing the Breyer.

And then in 2017 I watched the broadcast of the US championchip and Caruana unleashed the Breyer against the clear underdog Zherebukh. Zherebukh played exactly the set-up, which I considered horrendous for black and I was like `Yeah, finally 2800-Caruana can show me, how these positions are handled for Black´.

(I can not post a link to the game, as I need more posts in this forum to do so. But if you google Zherebukh - Caruana, 2017, you will find it)

After 18...Nc5 everything looks more or less fine for black, but the closer you look, the more you see, that black is really lacking any active ideas. White just improved his pieces, played for f2-f4 and crushed black on the kingside. I think after this game, all the top players stopped playing the Breyer. Maybe it is possible to find improvements over Caruana´s play, but this type of position seems to be quite annoying for black anyhow.
  
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Re: Breyer
Reply #46 - 10/08/19 at 23:59:39
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HgMan wrote on 11/18/07 at 15:12:18:
 What is the status of the Breyer at present?


The Breyer runs
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. 0-0 Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 0-0 9. h3 Nb8 10. d4 Nbd7

In the 1950s and 1960s, White would punt 11 c4 which leads to positions that aren't normal Spanish ones. More recently, playing  "normally" with 11 Nbd2 is more popular.

Any thoughts why?
  
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Re: Breyer
Reply #45 - 12/30/18 at 15:54:39
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Blackstock devotes a chapter to 12...c5 in his terrific book. But I'm grateful to learn it receives some mention in Bologan's much newer book.
  

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Reply #44 - 12/29/18 at 07:50:05
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HgMan wrote on 12/29/18 at 05:54:15:
an old Gligoric favourite


Yeah, this took me back to the '70s.  I recalled 13. b3 having been considered best.  For instance in annotating Browne-Gligoric in the Wijk aan Zee 1975 tournament book, Kavalek gave it as "!".  His note read in part:  "A good waiting move.  White does not yet commit himself to moving the QN to the K-side.  He may eventually close the centre without allowing Black to play P-QB5.  Also, before he moves his knight over, he wants first to make the situation on the Q-side clear.  Later he may fix the Q-side, creating a solid pawn chain QR5-QN4-QB3, or he can concentrate his forces on the weak QNP.  Black must not go to sleep, because if he does he may find himself in an unpleasant situation as Svetozar discovered in our game at the Nice Olympiad in 1974."
  
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Reply #43 - 12/29/18 at 07:03:56
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It's given some coverage in the Bologan tome under the name "the Accelerated Breyer", iirc.
  
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Reply #42 - 12/29/18 at 05:54:15
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After several years away, I have been revisiting the Breyer. I'm especially interested in exploring an old Gligoric favourite:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 0-0 9.h3 Nb8 10.d4 Nbd7 11.Nbd2 Bb7 12.Bc2 c5!?

Databases show the odd game among GMs that suggest that 12...c5 is innocuous enough, but does it have any surprise value? Or just another solid expression of Breyer themes?

13.d5 c4 14.Nf1 a5 15.Ng3 Qc7 looks comfortable enough for Black.

Fool's errand? Better to stick with 12...Re8 ? Or might this be worth mucking about with?
  

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Reply #41 - 12/23/08 at 13:30:30
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Bibs wrote on 12/23/08 at 05:25:46:
Wouldn't be at all surprised if the end position was to be found on Cheparinov's laptop.
Impressive display.


I was thinking the same thing.  Character issues (re. Short) notwithstanding, I've been impressed with Cheparinov's work at the board.  He has clearly benefited from his work with Topalov and is, I understand, responsible for a number of Topalov's opening surprises.  I would be interested to see the clocks for his game with Alekseev: his position does look rather rehearsed...
  

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Reply #40 - 12/23/08 at 05:25:46
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Wouldn't be at all surprised if the end position was to be found on Cheparinov's laptop.
Impressive display.
  
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Re: Breyer
Reply #39 - 12/22/08 at 23:39:12
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It seems as though Alekseev has joined the Breyer ranks:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1528309
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1529365

Cheparinov clearly knew what to expect and tried something to catch him...
  

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Re: Breyer
Reply #38 - 12/21/08 at 13:01:12
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I remember getting a rather tough lesson in this line a few years ago, when I was wondering whether the Breyer might be some sort of related improvement on my habitual Pirc.
McShane-Vigus, London 2005, went 15 b3 Bg7 16 d5 Qe7
(the move Short had just preferred over 16...Rc8 - albeit unsuccessfully - against Leko. Instead 16...Nb6 17 Rb1 might be irritating for Black)
17 Be3 c6 18 c4 Rec8 19 Nd2
(19 Qd2 a5 20 Rac1 Nc5 21 Bxc5 dxc5 had worked out very well for Black in Efimenko-B.Socko, Hastings 2004/5, and during my postmortem Speelman grimaced at the general suggestion of Bxc5 by White and said that this would nearly always be a concession - well, compare that new Alekseev game...)
19...Nc5 20 a3
(I was a bit too elated about the modesty of this move - he obviously thought ...a5 would quickly undermine his pawn chain if he forced the knight back immediately)
20...Qc7?
(20...a5 was fine, and probably also 20...Qd8 with the same idea as my move - to control b6, thus enabling me to threaten ...bxc4 because he wouldn't be able to recapture with the knight)
21 b4 Ncd7 22 Rc1 bc 23 dc Bxc6 24 Nxc4
- of course, the queen is now horrible on c7, and I see that I'm basically a few tempi down compared to the Alekseev game. Even in a 'slow' position that's too much, and the subtleties of the Breyer do need plenty of study.
  
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Reply #37 - 12/21/08 at 11:10:43
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So Van Delft's preference was correct - smart guy.
  

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Re: Breyer
Reply #36 - 12/21/08 at 02:42:15
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Bibs wrote on 12/20/08 at 22:29:44:
Hot off the press. Breyer strikes in Elista

Akopian-Alekseev

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1529340


Black's game looks fairly straightforward and has nice flow to it.  I expect we'll be seeing less 15.b3 in 2009...
  

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Reply #35 - 12/20/08 at 22:29:44
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Hot off the press. Breyer strikes in Elista

Akopian-Alekseev

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1529340
  
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Reply #34 - 12/20/08 at 19:10:31
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I do recall Gligoric being the victim of "a5 + hurricane" a couple of times, against Fischer and Kavalek (though the first one wasn't a Breyer).  Indeed a stark contrast with your position, though.
  
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