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Matemax God Member Offline Chesspub gives you strength! Posts: 1302 Joined: 11/04/07	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #22 - 03/23/08 at 12:02:28	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: Chris Ward / Feb 2008: Sorry, this update has been so start-stop that I've almost forgotten what games I've annotated. ?! - ??? - !?


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bragesjo God Member Offline CCE at ICCF 2021 and CCM at ICCF 2023 Posts: 1839 Location: Eskilstuna Joined: 06/30/06 Gender:	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #21 - 03/20/08 at 11:05:10	Post Tools	Print Post
	Wards new update feutures the Negi-Carlsson game but Nf5 is not even mentiond in hes annotations and 16 bxc4 bxc3 17 Qxc3 Qc7 is only mentioned as leeding to the critical line of the variation.


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bragesjo God Member Offline CCE at ICCF 2021 and CCM at ICCF 2023 Posts: 1839 Location: Eskilstuna Joined: 06/30/06 Gender:	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #20 - 01/18/08 at 16:01:26	Post Tools	Print Post
	First there are no updates at all and next thing you know all updates comes the same month


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Re: I think the Dragon is busted ...
Reply #19 - 01/13/08 at 11:22:19

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About Negi-Carlsson the position is unclear agian since white missed a wiinng sacrifce.

The following position was reached in this game and is given in Yearbook 85, p. 48 (variation of Meszaros-Hagarova, 2007)

now Yearbook mentions either 18.Nde2 or Nge2 leading to an advantage for black.

Negi played 18.Bh6 Bh6 19.Qh6 e5

Nf5 ideas dont seem to work here

the game continued: 20.g5 Ng4? 21.fg4 ed4 and here 22.Nf5 would have been strong

But what is White up to after 21...ed4

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ANDREW BRETT God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 622 Joined: 07/07/06	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #18 - 01/13/08 at 10:43:06	Post Tools	Print Post
	I saw that game and wondered what pontus was up to - not at lot- Negi played on a bit too long.


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bragesjo God Member Offline CCE at ICCF 2021 and CCM at ICCF 2023 Posts: 1839 Location: Eskilstuna Joined: 06/30/06 Gender:	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #17 - 01/12/08 at 15:49:16	Post Tools	Print Post
	About Negi-Carlsson the position is unclear agian since white missed a wiinng sacrifce.


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bragesjo God Member Offline CCE at ICCF 2021 and CCM at ICCF 2023 Posts: 1839 Location: Eskilstuna Joined: 06/30/06 Gender:	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #16 - 01/12/08 at 15:38:08	Post Tools	Print Post
	I did realy like this line to work for black but why didnt white call the bluff? I think black is better now. I thuoght that Carlsson liked the Chinese Dragon... I will post that game here when it is done. EDIT I think black made som inaccurate moves and Freitx screems that white is winning EDIT2 I wont post the game here afterall


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Matemax God Member Offline Chesspub gives you strength! Posts: 1302 Joined: 11/04/07	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #15 - 01/12/08 at 13:22:47	Post Tools	Print Post
	Pretty hot and topical stuff is played TODAY in the Corus tournament Negi-Carlsson, Round 1: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cd4 4.Nd4 Nf6 4.Nc3 g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.f3 0-0 8.Qd2 Nc6 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.0-0-0 Rc8 11.Bb3 Ne5 12.Kb1 Nc4 13.Bc4 Rc4 14.g4 15.b3 b4 Should be "must" to present in the next dragon update


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flaviddude Senior Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 329 Location: Australia Joined: 01/12/04 Gender:	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #14 - 01/12/08 at 13:16:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	thibdb13 wrote on 01/11/08 at 06:53:28: We could just add one section (something as "Sicilian Najdorf and alikes") . The Dragon section would so stay alive and the Open Sicilian section would become a bit(?) lighter and easier to use. I have two highly theoretical dragons in correspondence bu I expect that it will be many months before I can show them. One is a queen ending which could go for many moves. In the other my opponent is playing very slowly. I would hate to see the dragon section deleted. Separate sections on the Sveshnikov and Nadjorf would be a great idea.

	I am hopelessly addicted to the King's Gambit
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thibdb13 God Member Offline Tal was the best Posts: 974 Location: Mechelen Joined: 01/25/07 Gender:	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #13 - 01/11/08 at 06:53:28	Post Tools	Print Post
	We could just add one section (something as "Sicilian Najdorf and alikes") . The Dragon section would so stay alive and the Open Sicilian section would become a bit(?) lighter and easier to use.

	Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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Fernando Semprun Senior Member Offline Be nice to others. Life is to be enjoyed! Posts: 402 Location: Madrid Joined: 04/29/03 Gender:	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #12 - 01/10/08 at 22:10:04	Post Tools	Print Post
	I would still believe that Dragon section is fairly popular, so perhaps a 'Daring Sicilian Defences to 1.e4?'

	Fernando Semprun
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Sacapawn Full Member Offline International Master Posts: 119 Location: Stockholm Joined: 05/27/05 Gender:	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #11 - 01/09/08 at 18:55:49	Post Tools	Print Post
	Good idea Fernando! My suggestion would be to replace the Dragons section with a Najdorf section possibly including a line with some relationship to the Najdorf (e.g. Scheveningen).


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Fernando Semprun Senior Member Offline Be nice to others. Life is to be enjoyed! Posts: 402 Location: Madrid Joined: 04/29/03 Gender:	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #10 - 01/09/08 at 15:15:14	Post Tools	Print Post
	Since Chris doesnot provide with much useful material for some years now, what about transfering another Sicilian (say the Sveshnikov or whatever) to balance the load between Open Sicilians (too many) and Dragons (little happening). Or perhaps the Classical Sicilian, or...

	Fernando Semprun
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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4977 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #9 - 01/01/08 at 15:44:39	Post Tools	Print Post
	Yes, I noticed that Berg has taken up the Grand Prix (that was his second one in this tournament). Somewhat surprising; I wonder how long it will last.


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bragesjo God Member Offline CCE at ICCF 2021 and CCM at ICCF 2023 Posts: 1839 Location: Eskilstuna Joined: 06/30/06 Gender:	Re: I think the Dragon is busted ... Reply #8 - 01/01/08 at 14:33:12	Post Tools	Print Post
	Yesterday there was going to be a classical encounter in Rilton Cup beetween GMs Berg (white) and Carlsson(black) and instead of a sharp Bc4 Yugoslav Dragon as usual when they meet Berg played closed Sicilian instead and won very quickly since Carlsson made a total blunder in an completly equal (Fritz even thougt that he was slightly better at some parts of the game) position and lost hes Queen on move 25.


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