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Re: Cambridge Springs - Panczyk and Ilczuk
Reply #10 - 06/17/20 at 06:46:23
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Shankland gives 7...Bb4 and then after 8.Qc2 dxc4
  
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Re: Cambridge Springs - Panczyk and Ilczuk
Reply #9 - 06/15/20 at 22:24:25
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TD wrote on 06/15/20 at 18:05:18:
FreeRepublic wrote on 06/15/20 at 15:26:45:
Gambit publishing sells an electronic version that you can use on your "device." I assume they mean a phone or tablet, not a Windows computer.

I have a Kindle "book" from Gambit and I can read it on my Windows PC.

Yes, the e-books are kindle, so they work anywhere. And the app-books are ios and android only. I suppose you could use an android emulator on Windows if you were desperate. Information about the app-books:
http://gambitbooks.com/webapp/appbooks.html

I bought a couple of app-books, just to see how they work. They work well! There is some functionality not available in the kindle versions. But I won't buy many that way, because like all such services, if/when the company goes away, so would/will my books.
  
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Re: Cambridge Springs - Panczyk and Ilczuk
Reply #8 - 06/15/20 at 18:05:18
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FreeRepublic wrote on 06/15/20 at 15:26:45:
Gambit publishing sells an electronic version that you can use on your "device." I assume they mean a phone or tablet, not a Windows computer.

I have a Kindle "book" from Gambit and I can read it on my Windows PC.
  
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Re: Cambridge Springs - Panczyk and Ilczuk
Reply #7 - 06/15/20 at 15:26:45
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winawer77 wrote on 02/25/08 at 18:21:11:
I think that the Cambridge Springs is the perfect blend of solidity and dynamism

Well that is the promise of the CS.

"Meeting 7.Nd2 is key - I have always followed Panczyk and Ilczuk with 7...dxc4"

Here's the ...dxc move delayed a little bit:
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 Nbd7 5. Bg5 c6 6. e3 Qa5!? 7. Nd2!? Bb4 8. Qc2 O-O 9. Be2 dc4!? 10. Bf6 Nf6 11. Nc4.

P&I analyze 11...Bxd3 and 11... Qg5 starting on pg 142. They note that black can transpose to 7...dxc lines, specifically those lines covered on pg 129-131 with 11...Qc7. Chess Publishing covers the move order I gave above, and continue with 11...Qc7. I've verified that this transpose to 7...dxc lines on tempo. After 120-0, CP continues with P&I's main line of 12...Rd8. I might prefer another move given by P&I, namely 12...b6.

So why bother playing a 7...dxc line through a 7...Bb4 move order? Well, as always, it's about the alternatives permitted or denied along the way. I am already familiar with the 7...Bb4 sequence and it's sidelines. If I were to switch to the 7...dxc move order I would have to learn the 10g3 side line among other things.

I have the paperback version of P&I's book. It is also available electronically as a kindle file. It's like a book, but you can pull it up on your PC. Unfortunately, neither PGN nor ChessBase formats are available. Gambit publishing sells an electronic version that you can use on your "device." I assume they mean a phone or tablet, not a Windows computer.
  
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Re: Cambridge Springs - Panczyk and Ilczuk
Reply #6 - 05/07/20 at 15:20:16
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Incidentally the 7. Nd2 dc favored in this 18-year-old book, though not in the recent product by Sam Shankland, is addressed in the latest (April) update.
  
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Reply #5 - 05/07/20 at 11:57:53
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Just a heads-up. This book popped up in the store of the Chess Studio Android app of Gambit. Looks very interesting and well organised, ideas are explained and the opening is solid.
  
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Re: Cambridge Springs - Panczyk and Ilczuk
Reply #4 - 07/11/18 at 13:38:06
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TD wrote on 07/11/18 at 06:54:21:
Paulsen in "Chess Developments Semi-Slav 5 Bg5" gives 16...Ng6!= followed by f6.


Thanks. Yes that's good.

White can avoid that with 16.Rd4, instead of 16b3 that I originally gave. 16Rd4 hits the e pawn in addition to defending the c pawn.

Now black can win the exchange at the expense of two pawns, but I'm not sure it's a bargain: 16Rd4 f6 17Bf4 c5 18Rxe4 Bf5 19Rxe5 fxe5 20Bxe5.

Or black can play 17...Rfd8 instead. 16Rd4 f6 17Bf4 Rfd8 18b3 c5 19Rxd8 Rxd8 20Bxe5 fxe5 which has transposes to the line I provided earlier.
  
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Re: Cambridge Springs - Panczyk and Ilczuk
Reply #3 - 07/11/18 at 06:54:21
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Paulsen in "Chess Developments Semi-Slav 5 Bg5" gives 16...Ng6!= followed by f6.
  
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Re: Cambridge Springs - Panczyk and Ilczuk
Reply #2 - 07/11/18 at 04:32:16
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Justinhorton wrote on 02/21/08 at 22:01:27:
So - is there anything wrong with 11.Ncxe4 that Panczyk and Ilczuk didn't know? Or did they give the right line when the book was published in 2002, but nobody else has noticed?


I think they gave the best, though not the most interesting, line. Here is what I have in my notes:

1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 c6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Nf3 Qa5 7. Nd2 Bb4 8. Qc2 O-O 9. Be2 e5 10. dxe5 Ne4 11. Ncxe4 dxe4 12. Rd1! Nxe5 13. O-O Bxd2 14. Qxd2 Qxd2 15. Rxd2 Be6!? 16. b3!? f6!? 17. Bf4 Rfd8!? 18. Rd4!? c5!? 19. Rxd8+ Rxd8 20. Bxe5 fxe5 21. Rd1 Rxd1+ 22. Bxd1 Bd7

Stockfish says white is better, but has no plan for improving white's position. Sure white is better in a static sense. However I don't think white can win this.

White can play otherwise and get more chances, but black gets more chances too.
  
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Re: Cambridge Springs - Panczyk and Ilczuk
Reply #1 - 02/25/08 at 18:21:11
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I think that the Cambridge Springs is the perfect blend of solidity and dynamism, I'm amazed that it is not played more often.

Meeting 7.Nd2 is key - I have always followed Panczyk and Ilczuk with 7...dxc4 although I find the positions a bit similar to the 6.Bxf6 Moscow, although maybe slightly more passive. This made me look at the traditional mainline a bit more, especially as someone played it against me a few weeks ago. I think that White does have an edge in P & I's main line, but it is hardly anything for Black to worry about. Can't find much in the way of practical examples though.
  
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Cambridge Springs - Panczyk and Ilczuk
02/21/08 at 22:01:27
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In their book, Panczyk and Ilczuk favour the line 7.Nd2 bxc4 because they consider 7...Bb4 8.Qc2 O-O 9.Be2 e5 10.dxe5 Ne4 11.Ncxe4 good for White (p.161).

However, in the ChessPub ebook on the QGD (p.170) it's considered that 10.dxe5 doesn't give White much - and a line beginning with 10...Ne4 11.Ndxe4 is given.

So - is there anything wrong with 11.Ncxe4 that Panczyk and Ilczuk didn't know? Or did they give the right line when the book was published in 2002, but nobody else has noticed?
  
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