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Re: Svesh 9.Nd5 - how to play for a win w/ bl
Reply #2 - 04/25/08 at 17:42:48
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Against 9.Nd5 there are many variations, but it´s really difficult to play for win:
11...Bb7 isn´t good for Black, White get the advantage with 12.Nc2 following Nce3 and Qf3+=
11...Ne7 is agressive, but after 12.Nxf6 gxf6 13.Nc2 Bb7 14.Bd3 d5 15.exd5 Qxd5 16.Ne3 Qe6 17.a4 Rd8 18.Qc2 or Qe2 it´s good for White.
11...Bg5 and 12...Ne7 is after 13.h4 better for White, look Leko-Carlsen, Morelia/Linares 08
11...Bg5 and 12...Rb8 is equal, but very drawish
11...0-0 and 12...Bg5 is maybe the best, but led also to very drawish endgames
11...0-0 and 12...Rb8 Black should play,if he want to win, because after 13.h4! Be7 he can play the typical plan with ...Be6, ...Qd7, ...Bd8-b6 and ...Ne7 and so the position is balanced, but you can play it positional on both sides with ...a5 and ...f5 for a win. But you should look at the White actions on the kingside.

We should look at Radjabovs games and we will see what is the best Wink
  
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Re: Svesh 9.Nd5 - how to play for a win w/ bl
Reply #1 - 04/11/08 at 22:31:57
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RAFFLKOPTR wrote on 04/10/08 at 18:38:49:
So... How do I play for a win with black against 9.Nd5 in the Sveshnikov?
It tends to get really boring when white plays those positional lines... Tongue
I've already played the 12...Ne7 line, but I think it's too drawish...

At the moment I'm considering lines like 12...Rb8, but if you have any tips I'll gladly check them out Smiley.

Also, what do you play/recommend against 3.Bb5? I need something dynamic! Smiley
I've already tried 3...d6, which is quite playable, but I also like 3...e6.
I don't like the systems with 3...g6 or 3...Nf6, I think they're too drawish.

Thanks.


I disagree with your opinion that the 12...Ne7 lines are drawish. The resulting lines are very positional, but that doesn't mean the variation is a draw. If you know what you are doing, you should be able to equalise against just about anything White can throw at you.

Regarding 12...Rb8: Do you mean 11...Bg5 12.Nc2 Rb8 or 11...0-0 12.Nc2 Rb8? I would definitely prefer the second line, although if you are playing the Sveshnikov at 2300+ level, make sure you have prepared an improvement over Khalifman's lines.

Regarding your questions on the Rossolimo: You should probably ask on the Anti-Sicilians forum. There is a bounty of Rossolimo information there. However, I should inform you that 3...Nf6 is certainly not drawish - see Palliser's "The Bb5 Sicilian". Also, the 3...g6 line is not drawish either, but rather leads to a positional struggle with chances for both sides. You can also play dynamically in this variation by meeting 4.Bc6 with 4...bc6!?, which is less common but perfectly playable. 

3...e6 is indeed the most dynamic variation against the Rossolimo, although make sure you know the theory, since the resultant positions are often tricky to handle for both sides (e.g. 4.Bc6 bc6 5.b3).
  

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Svesh 9.Nd5 - how to play for a win w/ bl
04/10/08 at 18:38:49
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So... How do I play for a win with black against 9.Nd5 in the Sveshnikov?
It tends to get really boring when white plays those positional lines... Tongue
I've already played the 12...Ne7 line, but I think it's too drawish...

At the moment I'm considering lines like 12...Rb8, but if you have any tips I'll gladly check them out Smiley.

Also, what do you play/recommend against 3.Bb5? I need something dynamic! Smiley
I've already tried 3...d6, which is quite playable, but I also like 3...e6.
I don't like the systems with 3...g6 or 3...Nf6, I think they're too drawish.

Thanks.
  

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