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Re: Ambivalent
Reply #12 - 05/28/08 at 00:25:45
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Do you think you should have 2 defences only with black,
or also with white?


Yes, you should have more than one weapon with White as well, or at least varying approaches within the same opening. This is for practical as well as psychological reasons.

For example, suppose you are in a tournament and a major line in your repertoire as White is exposed as ineffective or maybe even unsound. Under those circumstances it is useful to have a fall back  prepared beforehand, and ideally it should be a line immune from theoretical flux, or as I like to say bullet proof. 

It is important to have these back ups prepared well in advance of your intended tournaments, because trying to do major repairs to one's repertoire during an event is stressful, time consuming and often unsuccessful.

On another note I would like to take up drkodos' point regarding inate talent and hard work. Talent is wonderful, but hard work is even better and can even compensate for the former to some degree.

You are right that pattern recognition needs to be hard wired into one's psyche to be able to find and execute combinations in ones games, but the good news is that this hardwiring if not inate can be cultivated with training.

The secret is that once you have consciously made the effort to memorise these patterns, is to forget about them and let them recede into ones subconscious until it is involunatrily trggered during a game as if by magic.

The most effective way I have found to improve pattern recognition skills, is to study them in their most rudimentary form since even the most complex combinations in the end can be broken down to these. Basically all combinations are simple, it is only their setting that may sometimes confuse and mislead.  A good grasp of combinational triggers, will go a long way to help you navigate the shifting landscape in your games.

It is important when doing the pattern recognition exercises to have any engines switched off, as this will defeat the purpose and effectiveness of them. Indeed you should attempt to analyse any position yourself, unassisted, and only then compare the results with that of your computer to measure how much you saw. 

In short everyone can cook, but it is neccessary in the beginning to practise and stick to the tried and proved recipes  Wink      

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Postscript: I should emphasise that one should concentrate on fully mastering simple recipe's first before attempting more complex one's.
  

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Re: Ambivalent
Reply #11 - 05/26/08 at 05:13:34
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TopNotch wrote on 05/17/08 at 19:57:56:
I think that two defences to some openings is perfectly reasonable.

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Five is even better.  


Makes it considerably harder to be prepped for.


I believe if one has good strategic understanding of Middlegames, there is no reason to limit oneself to a single avenue.  And I have not been shown any conclusive, or even compelling, evidence that this is the case.

I know people that play only one system vs whatever and they are not improving too much (staying at 1500 for decades) and I know many that play everything under the sun and have made it from 1500 rated player to Master in 5 to 7 years.


Conclusion:  There is no panacea.  Different strokes for different folks, and what works best for someone else would always be beyond my reach.

Too little emphasis is put on actual inate talent.  The idea that everyone can improve is fallacious.  Wihtout certain types of pattern regognition hard-wired into the neurology of the brain, the ceiling is depressingly low.

"Anyone can cook," is too often interpreted to mean that "everyone can cook."

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Re: Ambivalent
Reply #10 - 05/26/08 at 05:00:05
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Howdy I think I would choose the Sveshnikov but there is a ton of theory.  I think if you want to win then Sveshnikov is way to go as it is hard to win against the Marcozy bind.  I would forget the Nf6 sicilian if it was good more books and people would play it.  I think which is better is better question at 2500 level.  Both are good versus the anti sicilians.  I mean you get to play Nc6 versus closed and grand Prix - it is harder as a najdorf player.  true why not learn both?  It also gives more options such as 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Nf3 I think g6 may be best answer as you get to play d5 in one go often.   
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Reply #9 - 05/19/08 at 12:01:00
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TopNotch:

Do you think you should have 2 defences only with black,
or also with white?
  
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Re: Ambivalent
Reply #8 - 05/18/08 at 20:48:39
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Just one opening is not practical, at least two is more ideal.

Sometimes a tournament situation may require one to play all out for a win while others a draw may suffice.

For example, suppose one chooses the accelerated dragon as your only defence to 1.e4, when it is well known that this it is almost impossible to play successfully for a win against the Maroczy Bind if white is not in an ambitious mood. Conversely if the Dragon is one's only defence to 1.e4 and a draw is enough to clinch tournament glory, then Black has a big problem.

Flexibility and various tournament situations is something one should consider carefully when building an opening repertoire that one can feel confident with.

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Re: Ambivalent
Reply #7 - 05/18/08 at 16:32:42
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I think that acclerated Dragon is sounder but Svechnikov gives much better winning chances. These openings are difficult to compare, you must choose what suits your own style best.
  
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Re: Ambivalent
Reply #6 - 05/18/08 at 12:17:35
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Chevalier wrote on 05/18/08 at 11:30:55:
you should probably just stick to one opening all the time and learn it well.



I definitly agree but...but ...but which opening ?

Accelerated dragon or the Sveshnikov ? Or maybe Nimzowitsch sicilian.

I am sure that people in this forum is sick an tired of these kind of questions but for me its a problem.

  

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Re: Ambivalent
Reply #5 - 05/18/08 at 11:30:55
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An alternative approach is to play all openings, but not learn the theory in too much detail, simply using a simple book titled something such as 'Understanding Chess Openings', 'Simple Chess Openings' or the like. You will get to know all openings, although you probably won't develop a deep understanding of any openings. However, I find that at higher levels playing just one opening is a bad idea - but at less exalted levels, you should probably just stick to one opening all the time and learn it well.
  

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Re: Ambivalent
Reply #4 - 05/17/08 at 19:57:56
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I think that two defences to some openings is perfectly reasonable.

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Re: Ambivalent
Reply #3 - 05/17/08 at 18:37:49
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TopNotch wrote on 05/17/08 at 15:02:29:
Novosibirsk wrote on 05/17/08 at 13:35:30:
I am enormously ambivalent in my opening choice. I have one leg in the Sveshnikov and one leg in the Accelerated dragon.

I have to abandom one of them. How do we compare them ?

1. safety

1. Most reliable

3. easy to play

4. soundness.

5. Best winning chances

These factors and some others are important to me.

I  like Sveshnikov but have some inner doubts about its final correctness. Maybe I am wrong.

Is it moredifficult to win with the accelerated dragon than with the "svesh" ?

As I mentioned Iam very ambivalent over this and it really disturbed me.

Help!!


The accelerated dragon is low maintenance so why not play both.

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I hope I could play both but maybe that would require too much theory.  

Another thing that echoes through my mind is an article written by Kevin Spraggett. An article everyone in this forum should print out and read from time to time.

http://www.kevinspraggett.com/reflecti.htm

The article has the headline : Becoming a master

Kevin writes that one should have just one answer to 1.e4 ,1.d4 , 1. Nf3 and so on. He stresses : Keep it simple. He warns about the information trap in chess. He also writes about Lasker who wanted to forget most of the information he had absorbed in chess.

I am also a bit interested in Nimzowitsch sicilian. A provocative sicilian line.  That makes me EVEN more ambivalent !!  Cheesy
  

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Re: Ambivalent
Reply #2 - 05/17/08 at 15:02:29
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Novosibirsk wrote on 05/17/08 at 13:35:30:
I am enormously ambivalent in my opening choice. I have one leg in the Sveshnikov and one leg in the Accelerated dragon.

I have to abandom one of them. How do we compare them ?

1. safety

1. Most reliable

3. easy to play

4. soundness.

5. Best winning chances

These factors and some others are important to me.

I  like Sveshnikov but have some inner doubts about its final correctness. Maybe I am wrong.

Is it moredifficult to win with the accelerated dragon than with the "svesh" ?

As I mentioned Iam very ambivalent over this and it really disturbed me.

Help!!


The accelerated dragon is low maintenance so why not play both.

Toppy Smiley
  

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Re: Ambivalent
Reply #1 - 05/17/08 at 14:56:29
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Maybe this helps: on ELO 2500+ level (both players) the Svesjnikov scores about 50%. White's results in the Acc. Dragon are considerably better.
  

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05/17/08 at 13:35:30
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I am enormously ambivalent in my opening choice. I have one leg in the Sveshnikov and one leg in the Accelerated dragon.

I have to abandom one of them. How do we compare them ?

1. safety

1. Most reliable

3. easy to play

4. soundness.

5. Best winning chances

These factors and some others are important to me.

I  like Sveshnikov but have some inner doubts about its final correctness. Maybe I am wrong.

Is it moredifficult to win with the accelerated dragon than with the "svesh" ?

As I mentioned Iam very ambivalent over this and it really disturbed me.

Help!!
  

“I don’t play chess anymore, I play Fischer Random. It is a much better game, more challenge. Chess is a dead game, it is played out. Fischer Random is a version of chess that I developed or invented.
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