(UTC)
Latest Updates:
  ChessPub Forum › Chess Publishing Openings › d-Pawn Specials › Torre › I need study material on the Torre (as White)
‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 
Topic Tools
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) I need study material on the Torre (as White) (Read 42095 times)
gipc
YaBB Newbies
*
Offline


just Chessplayer inside

Posts: 25
Location: France near Toulouse
Joined: 09/27/07
Gender: Male
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #13 - 06/02/08 at 13:28:13
Post Tools
Here is a good site (in french) to recall the principes of the Torre Attack:

http://www.evry-grandroque.com/emmanuel.html
  
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
kalle99
Full Member
***
Offline


They say I have Aspbergers
syndrome.

Posts: 144
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 11/05/05
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #12 - 06/01/08 at 22:09:05
Post Tools
HoemberChess wrote on 05/26/08 at 09:37:19:
No one else plays the Torre as White??  Sad


Eric Tangborn has written a book  : A winning white repertoire where the Torre is the backbone of his repertoire. 

Torre is OK. You can win with it against  weaker oponents and against strong oponents its a solid choice.

Another source of study is Mark Hebdens games. He plays the Torre and he has a lot of blood on his hands with this opening.

He has his own move order . He plays the Torre this way :

1.d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c3 !?  And the bishop comes later to g5  This  opening is called The Hebden Torre by J.Cox in his book Dealing with d4 deviations.   page 54

The Hebden Torre is mainly used to avoid a black set up with an early h6.


  
"I Often see in chess forums people asking : " What is the current status of that line ?"&&&&Its a good reasonable question,but who can claim that he knows the answer ?!&&&&Semko Semkov Januari 2008
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
HoemberChess
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 512
Location: Lake d4 on Planet Chess
Joined: 10/08/07
Gender: Male
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #11 - 05/26/08 at 09:37:19
Post Tools
No one else plays the Torre as White??  Sad
  
as
*W 1d4) Torre/Barry/Pirc/Philidor/ early _d5:early c4(QGD/Slav/QGD/etc)
*B) 1e4:e6 [+1_c5 2Nf3 a6]| 1d4:e6 2c4 Bb4+ BID/pseudoNID [+1_Nf6 NID]| 1c4:c5,_Nc6,_e5,_g6| 1Nf3:c5
Back to top
WWWGTalk  
IP Logged
 
Bibs
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 2342
Joined: 10/24/06
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #10 - 05/23/08 at 11:56:36
Post Tools
KM, LR hoember.

Thanks all for that. Very kind.
Think I have a torrent of 'How to open a chess game' so will have a look.

Cheers again,

Bibs
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
HoemberChess
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 512
Location: Lake d4 on Planet Chess
Joined: 10/08/07
Gender: Male
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #9 - 05/23/08 at 08:23:38
Post Tools
Around here, the book is named "Petroszjan tanít", I think. ("Petrosian teaches")

kylemeister wrote on 05/23/08 at 02:41:44:
There is a chapter/section on the Torre by Petrosian in the 1970s book "How to Open a Chess Game"; I suspect it's the same thing nyoke referred to.

  
as
*W 1d4) Torre/Barry/Pirc/Philidor/ early _d5:early c4(QGD/Slav/QGD/etc)
*B) 1e4:e6 [+1_c5 2Nf3 a6]| 1d4:e6 2c4 Bb4+ BID/pseudoNID [+1_Nf6 NID]| 1c4:c5,_Nc6,_e5,_g6| 1Nf3:c5
Back to top
WWWGTalk  
IP Logged
 
HoemberChess
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 512
Location: Lake d4 on Planet Chess
Joined: 10/08/07
Gender: Male
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #8 - 05/23/08 at 08:20:08
Post Tools
With 2.Bg5 I give my opponents more options, which I don't like.
I only want to play the Torre on 2..b6/e6/g6 (after 1..Nf6 2.Nf3).
And I play the New York line of Réti Opening as Black, which is the same as the 2..g6 Torre with reversed colors.

Chevalier wrote on 05/22/08 at 04:38:09:
The Trompowsky with the immediate 2.Bg5 tends to lead to much more interesting positions than the Torre. Julian Hodgson along with a number of other British GMs have used this line very successfully.

If Black is a KID player, all he has to remember to equalise is (after 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bg5 Bg7 4.Nbd2 0-0 5.c3 d6 6.e4) to play ...Nc6, ...Qe8 and ...e5.

  
as
*W 1d4) Torre/Barry/Pirc/Philidor/ early _d5:early c4(QGD/Slav/QGD/etc)
*B) 1e4:e6 [+1_c5 2Nf3 a6]| 1d4:e6 2c4 Bb4+ BID/pseudoNID [+1_Nf6 NID]| 1c4:c5,_Nc6,_e5,_g6| 1Nf3:c5
Back to top
WWWGTalk  
IP Logged
 
LeeRoth
God Member
*****
Offline


I love ChessPublishing.com!

Posts: 1520
Joined: 10/22/05
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #7 - 05/23/08 at 02:48:47
Post Tools
The Torre article is in Petrosian's Legacy, which is a collection of Petrosian's articles and lecture.  It's a must have.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
kylemeister
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 4971
Location: USA
Joined: 10/24/05
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #6 - 05/23/08 at 02:41:44
Post Tools
There is a chapter/section on the Torre by Petrosian in the 1970s book "How to Open a Chess Game"; I suspect it's the same thing nyoke referred to.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Bibs
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 2342
Joined: 10/24/06
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #5 - 05/23/08 at 02:22:04
Post Tools
the Burgess book is very good. Gufeld and Stesko is dismal.

Nyoke - Where is the Petrosian article? Sounds interesting.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
nyoke
God Member
*****
Offline


I Love ChessPublishing!

Posts: 593
Location: BELGIUM
Joined: 12/31/06
Gender: Male
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #4 - 05/22/08 at 19:04:55
Post Tools
There is an article by Petrosian on the Torre which is named iirc 'Why I like to put my bishop on g5' that I thought is 'fundamental' for any Torre player...
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
winawer77
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 249
Location: UK
Joined: 03/31/07
Gender: Male
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #3 - 05/22/08 at 11:18:10
Post Tools
Kylemeister is right - 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bg5 Bg7 4.Nbd2 0-0 5.c3 d6 6.e4 the best move is 6...c5! (7.dxc5 dxc5), practically anything based on ...e5 will give White an edge.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
kylemeister
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 4971
Location: USA
Joined: 10/24/05
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #2 - 05/22/08 at 05:09:02
Post Tools
Chevalier wrote on 05/22/08 at 04:38:09:


If Black is a KID player, all he has to remember to equalise is (after 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bg5 Bg7 4.Nbd2 0-0 5.c3 d6 6.e4) to play ...Nc6, ...Qe8 and ...e5.


That's a pretty categorical-sounding statement.  It strikes me as a doubtful one, too; my impression is that 6...Nc6 7. Bb5 is rather promising for White.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Chevalier
Senior Member
****
Offline



Posts: 265
Joined: 04/11/08
Re: I need study material on the Torre (as White)
Reply #1 - 05/22/08 at 04:38:09
Post Tools
The Trompowsky with the immediate 2.Bg5 tends to lead to much more interesting positions than the Torre. Julian Hodgson along with a number of other British GMs have used this line very successfully.

If Black is a KID player, all he has to remember to equalise is (after 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bg5 Bg7 4.Nbd2 0-0 5.c3 d6 6.e4) to play ...Nc6, ...Qe8 and ...e5.
  
Nothing has meaning or value other than the meaning and value that you give it.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
HoemberChess
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 512
Location: Lake d4 on Planet Chess
Joined: 10/08/07
Gender: Male
I need study material on the Torre (as White)
05/21/08 at 09:09:47
Post Tools
I'd like to take up this opening into my repertoire against 1..Nf6. (on 1.d4) My opponents are below 2200, so I think it is reasonable.

For example, I'd be interested in the name of any articles written on the subject. Please tell me the exact name of the sources.

I already know about 
- video "Foxy Opening 50 - The Torre Attack" by GM James Plaskett
- book "Winning with the Torre Attack" by Eduard Gufeld & Oleg Stetsko  (1993)
- Fritz Trainer "Queen's pawn openings" by A. Martin (2007)
- book "THE GAMBIT GUIDE TO THE TORRE ATTACK" by Graham Burgess (1999)
  
as
*W 1d4) Torre/Barry/Pirc/Philidor/ early _d5:early c4(QGD/Slav/QGD/etc)
*B) 1e4:e6 [+1_c5 2Nf3 a6]| 1d4:e6 2c4 Bb4+ BID/pseudoNID [+1_Nf6 NID]| 1c4:c5,_Nc6,_e5,_g6| 1Nf3:c5
Back to top
WWWGTalk  
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 
Topic Tools
‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›
Bookmarks: del.icio.us Digg Facebook Google Google+ Linked in reddit StumbleUpon Twitter Yahoo
 
  « Board Index ‹ Board Top  

ChessPub Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.6.12!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2025. All Rights Reserved.

Valid RSS Valid XHTML Valid CSS Powered by Perl Source Forge