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Re: Kramnik
Reply #103 - 10/13/08 at 20:26:26
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I did think about merging these two threads, but there is quite a bit of information here that does not directly pertain to the Anand-Kramnik match.  I'm going to leave these two threads alone for now.
  
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Reply #102 - 10/13/08 at 12:18:09
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re Anand's seconds, - check my message on the other WCh thread..

(btw I got a bit confused with 2 similar threads - shall we all revert to the new one since the WCh is about to start? - or a moderator could merge these 2?)
  

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Re: Kramnik
Reply #101 - 10/13/08 at 11:49:15
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I suspect Anand has the wonder kid Carlsen as one of his seconds. They are on friendly terms and he would be a great second to have - full of energy and quite creative in the ideas department.
  
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Re: Kramnik
Reply #100 - 10/12/08 at 19:55:19
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I'm not worried about the quality of this fantastic match-up.  Whenever we have the two best players facing each other in a World Championship match we get interesting chess.  I still go through the world championship matches from 1948-present.  Ok, I skip over Kasparov-Short and Kramnik-Leko for the most part.  But Kasparov-Anand is still interesting!

Speaking of Kasparov-Anand... This may lend some food for thought regarding how Anand prepared for that historic match.  Remember, he actually took the lead against Kasparov before Garri woke up and destroyed Vishy.   

Vishy has become a much stronger player, emotionally. And he will need every bit of that strength to defeat a healthy Kramnik.  I wonder how many different openings we will see in this relatively short match.  I expect that we may see two main openings against d4 (or 1.Nf3 followed eventually by d4) and 1.e4 lines by each player.

It would be fun to see something really baroque such as the Ponziani, but I think the most exotic line we'll see will be some sort of Scotch.  I'm really looking forward to this match, not so much for the openings, but for the battle of styles in general. Cool
  
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Re: Kramnik
Reply #99 - 10/12/08 at 16:46:31
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We now know that Kramnik again has managed to bring together a strong team of seconds.
But why does Anand keep the names of his seconds secret.
I wonder if these names will provide a shock (for instance imagine the appearance of Kasparov as a second) Huh
or would these names betray his opening strategy.

I hope for a non-tedious match by the way. At least to see Anand counter Kramnik's Catalan should be entertaining enough.
The games with Kramnik on the black side are a bit more of a worry.
Anand's results against 1.e4,e5 haven't been to convincing of late.
It's difficult to predict Kramnik's defence against the Ruy Lopez.
With Leko as his second, why it might even be the Marshall gambit.

  
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Reply #98 - 10/11/08 at 17:43:46
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Both will surprise us but not so much each other with their opening repertoires.

One win will be enough for either to take the title.

Despite GM Yussupov's bubbling excitement, this match will be tedious, technical and as dry as the Kalahari.





  

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Re: Kramnik
Reply #97 - 10/11/08 at 16:58:40
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ANDREW BRETT wrote on 10/11/08 at 07:25:54:
I am sure that Kramnik will have at least one surprise up his sleeve with Black- he used the slav v topalov when he was previously defending the nimzo, and of course the Berlin v Kasparov.


It would be a total gas if that surprise happened to be Van Delft's 9...Bxa2 from this thread:

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1222349772/0#0
  

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Re: Kramnik
Reply #96 - 10/11/08 at 07:25:54
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I think that Kramnik may defend the Lopez if he views the 5 nc3 stuff in the Petroff as too risky - I am sure Vishy will try this line as it avoids the usual stuff. The Breyer in particular looks possible.

I am sure that Kramnik will have at least one surprise up his sleeve with Black- he used the slav v topalov when he was previously defending the nimzo, and of course the Berlin v Kasparov. 

I think you'll find John that Vishy has played the KID - see Miles v Anand for a real kingsize blunder . I think he's also played it in blitz. 

  
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Re: Kramnik
Reply #95 - 10/10/08 at 13:39:05
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chk wrote on 10/10/08 at 08:52:27:
I read today on a ChessBase article with a Kramnik interview:

"Who is in your team? Who are your seconds?

My team consists of Russian grandmaster [Sergey] Rublevsky, French GM [Laurent] Fressinet and Hungarian GM [Peter] Leko."

While watching the Russian super-championship currently under way, I was wondering where Rublevsky has been lately, but Leko was surely a surprise to me!


it is very interesting cause Fressinent and Leko play the same style and opening choices for the most part as Kramnik.
  
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Reply #94 - 10/10/08 at 08:52:27
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I read today on a ChessBase article with a Kramnik interview:

"Who is in your team? Who are your seconds?

My team consists of Russian grandmaster [Sergey] Rublevsky, French GM [Laurent] Fressinet and Hungarian GM [Peter] Leko."

While watching the Russian super-championship currently under way, I was wondering where Rublevsky has been lately, but Leko was surely a surprise to me!
  

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Re: Kramnik
Reply #93 - 10/09/08 at 14:01:11
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bragesjo wrote on 06/08/08 at 15:25:16:
I personally think that tournaments are better than matches becouse in matches it is possible to play drawish variations every game and still win while in tournaments the player who actually takes more points eg avoids drawish systems, wins.

I think Kramnik will win the match unless Anands team break the Petroff. Also Anand has actually played the Dragon as black too!
See J Polgar-Anand 1997


Anand had a big advantage against Kramnik with 5.Nc3 in the Petroff in a tournament game recently. Can't recall which tournament.
  
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Reply #92 - 10/06/08 at 08:54:38
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Oops, sorry for misinforming you all - it's apparently 12 long games and not 8 as I mentioned 3 days ago. The odd thing is I cannot remember or find where I read the false news (it was rushing hour in the office - Friday).

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Re: Kramnik
Reply #91 - 10/04/08 at 21:28:02
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John, 

Thanks for jumping to my defense, but I was wrong.  I was counting Euwe, but by that measure I'd also have to include Botvinnik's rematch victories.  So, we have to go all the way back to Lasker for the last  player (apart from Kramnik and Kasparov) who successfully defended his title against two different opponents.

I will still withhold Botvinnik's drawn matches against Bronstein and Smyslov on the admittedly flimsy ground that he didn't win the title in match play so he didn't beat a current world champion in match play until 1958!

Ok, that is a flimsy argument considering how he dominated the 1948 tnmt.  It does show how remarkable Kramnik's tenure has been, and by extension, Kasparov's.  Kasparov must be the greatest chess player ever by almost any standard, and Kramnik's match win against him is very impressive.

Sorry, Karpov's wins over Anand and Kamsky don't count.
  
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Reply #90 - 10/04/08 at 15:17:06
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Willempie wrote on 10/03/08 at 20:51:04:
IMJohnCox wrote on 10/03/08 at 16:46:19:
Willempie, Alekhine also beat Euwe, not of course as defending champ, but Smyslov Fan's formula didn't specify that, I think?

I thought it did as otherwise the argument doesnt make much sense.


Well, he said beating two people after winning the title, he didn't specify whether it was as reigning champion.  Botvinnik is allowed back in that way though.

On the other hand, if Kramnik-Leko 7-7 is a win for Kramnik, Botvinnik's 12-12 against Bronstein (1951) and Smyslov (1954) count also. So either way Botvinnik is still in.  (Given the default and all the schenanigens in the Kramnik-Topalov match, I personally count that as a clear win for Kramnik although it took tiebreaks)

Although since the list of champions who failed to successfully defend their title even once includes Capablanca, Euwe, Smyslov, Tal, Spassky and Fischer, so even defending once deserves some credit!
  
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Re: Kramnik
Reply #89 - 10/03/08 at 20:51:04
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IMJohnCox wrote on 10/03/08 at 16:46:19:
Willempie, Alekhine also beat Euwe, not of course as defending champ, but Smyslov Fan's formula didn't specify that, I think?

I thought it did as otherwise the argument doesnt make much sense.
  

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