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Re: Qb6 sicilian
Reply #5 - 06/25/08 at 11:05:26
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As far as I remember Grivas was smashed with his variation at this years Wijk an Zee!? 

I also played a game with the following moves:

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Qb6 5.Nb3 Nf6 6.Nc3 e6 7.Be3 Qc7 8.Bd3 Bb4 (I think 8...Be7 was the way Grivas played it - but I am not completly sure) 9.f4 d5 10.e5 Ne4 11.Bxe4 
[11.Qg4 deserves to be investigated]
11. ... dxe4 12.Bd2?! e3! - and finally we made a draw (move 28)
[12.Nd2 was a better try]
  
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Re: Qb6 sicilian
Reply #4 - 06/25/08 at 10:58:46
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Yep, the book by Grivas looks nice but he only deals with the Nb3 ideas. Including the moves Nc3 and Nf6 i think is in white's favour.
So for the second line it is recommended. Otherwise if you knoiw that your opponent plays 4...Qb6 variation you can outmove him playing 3.Nc3 and only then d4. Of course you should be ready for 3...e5 systems.

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Re: Qb6 sicilian
Reply #3 - 06/25/08 at 10:41:39
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see the book by Grivas. Immodestly titled: The Grivas Sicilian. Poor chap must have had a few identity issues at the time for that to feel necessary.

Tedious pop-psych aside, moves rather than explanations though. But the gent has plenty of experience in it, so I guesss knows his stuff. Good to see someone practice what they proverbially preach.
  
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Re: Qb6 sicilian
Reply #2 - 06/25/08 at 09:58:17
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In the first line 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cd4 4.Nd6 Nf6 5.Nc3 Qb6 after 6.Be3 white is much better if not winning. I myself played two games with White in this line and won the convincingly in less than 30 moves.
The best replay is 6.Be3 and it is not clear where the black queen will escape. Taking the pawn on b2 leads to a huge initiative and advantage for White after Ndb5.
The second line creates more problems for white but at the end i think that White has his usual small plus (maybe stable)  Undecided
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Re: Qb6 sicilian
Reply #1 - 06/25/08 at 07:28:04
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Zatara wrote on 06/24/08 at 23:30:52:
Hi all,
what do people think of these 2 sicilians:
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cd 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Qb6 with the idea of 6.Nb3 e6 7.Be3 Qc7 8.Bd3 Bb4 9.0-0 Bxc3 10Bxc3 0-0   
and
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cd 4.Nxd4 Qb6   and if 5.Nb5 a6 6.Be3 then 6....Qd8 7Nd4 Nf6 8.Nc3 e5! 9Nb3 Bb4 
thanks for your time,
Zatara


All those Qb6-sicilians have to be tested by the move Be3 - if this doesnt work in the specific situation (but in most it does!), then Nb5 followed by Be3 comes into question. Finally White can ever go for an approach with Nb3 followed by Nc3, Bd3, Be3, f4, Qf3 and 0-0-0 or even play c4 in some variations instead of Nc3. I think Black overestimates the value of Qb6-Qc7 to "force" the white knight to b3 - sometimes the knight is even better placed there. Short castle is another but less critical option for White - probably White should nearly always play 0-0-0 in the Sicilian if possible (famous exception is the Sveshnikov - which may be one of the benefits of this variation for Black).
  
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Qb6 sicilian
06/24/08 at 23:30:52
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Hi all,
what do people think of these 2 sicilians:
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cd 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Qb6 with the idea of 6.Nb3 e6 7.Be3 Qc7 8.Bd3 Bb4 9.0-0 Bxc3 10Bxc3 0-0   
and
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cd 4.Nxd4 Qb6   and if 5.Nb5 a6 6.Be3 then 6....Qd8 7Nd4 Nf6 8.Nc3 e5! 9Nb3 Bb4 
thanks for your time,
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